Deep thoughts re: Dr Tim's poll on Ladies suffering for beauty

raves +3   by Mollydolly
Recently a couple of friends and I went to a Drag Show to watch a friend perform. Some of the performers were truly beautiful and amazingly looked like women. But there were a number of these "Queens" that were totally overweight with bad wigs, poured into tight dresses, and wearing scary up. I felt kind of sorry for them as they attempted to lip sink to their chosen song.

We all had a great time and I have the pictures to prove it. Afterwards as we were discussing the performances the subject of how these big old fat ones could summon up the nerve to get up on stage and not be totally mortified as we would have been. The agreed upon conclusion: the difference between men and women, even if it’s a man pretending to be woman is that men seem to have an imbedded self confidence, a kind of “Male Privilege” that has been handed down ancestrally over generations.

Men parade around on the beach with their big fat hairy stomachs hanging over their shorts and think nothing of it. How often I see flabby old guys or just butt ugly guys with these beautiful coiffed and decked out women who tend to exude a sense of self consciousness not about their escort but of themselves. They fluff their hair, constantly reapply lipstick, and then sit still and listen to some droll story with rapt attention.

One of our trio told us about her nephew who is now her niece. The one important thing that she noticed after the sex change was that she had retained this inner pride, assuredness, self confidence.

Most women struggle with a “Female no privilege” has been imprinted on our grey matter over the centuries. In an insecure attempt to defend ourselves we attempt e to look as perfect as we can so maybe no one will notice that we are indeed inferior.

I have noticed that the pendulum has begun its return trip. More and more women balk at the second citizen thing. That women aren’t as smart or capable, have no science or math skills. Over the past years, during my illnesses 10 out of the 14 medical professionals that have treated me were women. This for me, a child of the 60’s and a MS supporter(who at 20 was sure we'd have had a couple of female presidents by now), is pretty encouraging.

Don’t get me wrong. I do not want to strip the men of this confidence. I just want to see in appear more and more in women.

Now as to “White Privilege” all of us Caucasians need first admit that it does exists and then step back creating a space for people of color can share in a joint human privilidge.

Epilogue
I did ask my friend about the wardrobes and high heels, which I said I hadn’t worn in years and believe that they are the modern day form of foot binding and why would anyone who didn’t have to wear them do so was he crazy? Oh and then yes where do you’re a’hem privates go? The short answer is there is a lot of tape involved and some other stuff. I said, “Doesn’t it hurt?” and he smiled and said, “Yes, of course but it’s worth it.”

Seems that is their female side where how you look is way more important than how you feel. Although, inside I see that it makes them feel good.
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  • raves     [-] by lou lou
    I usd to work in the *beauty industry* as a skin therapist (aesthetician). I got into the business for different reasons than many. For the most part I worked in spas and full service salons, where men and women alike would come in to have their beauty fixes. Then I worked with a plastic surgeon for a very short time (couldn't handle it) The patients were for the most part women and most of them seemed to have a lack of confidence, and a good number had something wrong with them psychologicaly. It was very unsatisfing. I didn't think we were helping them at all.
  • raves +1   [-] by E.G.
    There are a number of women where I work, which surprised me at first because I work in a dirty, smelly place. They are all very competent at what they do. A friend of mine is one of the fire chiefs for the county. She has practically given her life to be in the "Brotherhood"; her back is screwed up, almost (not me) all of her friends are firefighters, that's all she knows. I'm surprised we haven't had a woman president yet either. After all, many other countries have had female leaders. But getting back to your story about the clothes: Why did the news folks and other media talk about Hillary's outfit and makeup, and not Obama's or McCain's?

    As far as overweight guys in bad wigs getting on stage -- they must know they aren't fooling anyone, ESPECIALLY the 'real thing' sitting in the audience. They are probably doing it to entertain themselves. Like that time I had too much to drink and tried karaoke... *grin*
  • raves     [-] by cronewinter
    i may be somewhat off subject here, but why is self confidence always linked with appearance? seems to me that the constant fluffing of hair and applying of lipstick implies the exact opposite. seems to me a confident woman is the one who steps out with her head help up, and looks the world square in the eye. she would be more concerned with whats under the paint than how well it ws applied?
  • raves +1   [-] by Mollydolly
    That's not off the subject at all. It's what I was trying to get at. Women are totally insecure. If they were confident they wouldn't care if they had makeup on or if she was a little overweight. Most Glam women I think are too skinny anyway. No matter what the go for the twiggy look. Society and the media have done that especially to women and even more so to young girls. Hell look at Barbie. Pointiest boobs I've ever seen. The commercials the 20 somethings putting anti aging cream on etc. Why were so many people anti Hillary? a good deal of them because she was a "Bitch" which is mostly what strong, confident, assertive women are called. The time is now for the Goddess to return and bring balance back to the planet. Men have ruled too long with their ideas of conquest. Not much has advanced societally in thousands of years because of mens need to dominate.
  • raves +1   [-] by MIss Placed
    hmmmm im thin but not cuz i really wanna be i mean i do but you know i eat alot and dont gain weight..all my boyfriends ive ever had have done nothin but tell me im beautiful ... i thought it was just cuz they wanted to get in my pants but well they all had plenty of chances you know being alone with them in thier house in thier room on thier bed and they dont even try i mean if they wanted it that bad they wouldve done someting right?
  • raves     [-] by Mollydolly
    You sound like my friend Suzi in school. She could eat anything and always was thin. Drove me crazy.

    It sounds like you have had some good male friends not just because they find you beautiful but because they haven't pushed you to have sex with them. Guys are guys and mostly will at least try. Good guys accept that the other person says no and backs off but stays friends.

    it's kinda hard to tell because of the clown make up but it looks to me like you are pretty cute under there.
  • raves +1   [-] by MIss Placed
    ty i dont think i am but i guess other ppl do
  • raves     [-] by Mollydolly
    That's is so what happens. My whole young life i thought I was so plain or even ugly sometimes. When I moved I found all these pics of me and I couldn't believe that was me. I was so darn cute. Women do this to themselves all the time and it sucks. I wish there was a way I could wave a magic wand and make all of us love ourselves just as we are because I know if you can do that then you are beautiful. I had a friend who was not all that good looking but she had this attitude that she was and damn if men didn't fall at her feet. I always envied her for that. Guess even at my age it's something to aim for.
  • raves +1   [-] by MIss Placed
    i dont care wht ppl think of me .. this is me in a nutshell take it or leave it im not here to please any of you
  • raves     [-] by Mollydolly
    That's good to feel you don't need to please people. That makes you sound like a strong individual. Not a bad thing to be at all. but because I know you are angry at everyone it can sound like a revenge. How I used to be, "I'll show you!!!" I spent most of my life like that.
  • raves     [-] by MIss Placed
    well im not like gonna kill them im just gonna torture them and it wont be plesent
  • raves     [-] by Mollydolly
    ok you got my curiosity up just like a cats. What kind of torture? Are you angry at me too? Should I be worried?
  • raves     [-] by MIss Placed
    no you shouldnt be worried i like you ...im fine and itll be w/e kind of torture pops into my head first like i think i might tie them to table and cuz off thier limbs one by one and coturize them so they dont die and starve them and eventually cut out thier eyes and make them eat them then tie a bag around thier head so when they puke they drown in ti or i could cut thier face to make it look like a skeleton or sew thier eyes and mouth shut and noone will find me cuz ill be very carefull wearing surgical gloves and all then ill cut off thier heads hands and feet and bury them all in diffrent states so they cant be traced back and ill bury them ware they wont be found like in a desert or something you know...but w/e i wont get cought...im proud of myself cuz im only 14 and i thought of all thins by myself
  • raves     [-] by MIss Placed


    i could make a great horror movie with all my ideas...:) and i know a director too oh yey me!!
  • raves     [-] by Mollydolly
    Sounds like a horror movie to me. Im glad you like me phew. It sounds like you are so f****ng angry. Has anyone made you hurt so bad by doing something not nice to you and didn't care if it hurt you? I ask cause it sounds like you have a vengence like people get when they've been beaten or raped or some other nasty thing. Your imagination sure is creative though. creeps me out a little but maybe you should try to write a movie script or even a short story. Lots of people like goulish stuff. And you are an excellent writer.
  • raves     [-] by MIss Placed
    y thank you umm my dad was abusive and i was molested by him and my g-pa noone beleived me cuz they were so god with kids

    i would write all mt ideas down but its hard for me to put them into things they just kinda linger in the back of my mind like ghosts sitting there waiting for me to put something of use with them and im afrid if i write them down and give them to my director friend she wont do it right the way i imagined it like when they turn boox into movies its never as good as the originality of the minds creation
  • raves     [-] by Mollydolly
    aw sweetie that really sucks about your dad and grandfather. No wonder you are so mad at the world. It makes me angry that when there is someone you are supposed to be able to rely on and trust to take care of you does such a totally horrendous thing to you and I do mean horrendous. Are you saying that no one believed about both of them? and is this the grandpa you are living with now? Shit.
    I am so sorry kiddo.
    I know what you mean about the author of a story having her work mangled by producers, and directors, and editors. It's a shame but it happens all the time. I have always tried not to see a movie that was from a book that I loved because it was always a big disappointment. But still I would recommend that even if you don't do anything with it now that you start putting these ghosts down on paper. Do you keep a journal? I find that helps me to get things a little clearer and it's a great place to vent.
  • raves     [-] by MIss Placed
    NO MY G-PA DIDED BUT IM AT MY DADS NOW AND WELL IDK BUT NOONE BELEIVED ME ABOUT BOTH OF THEM....NO I DONT KEEP A JOURNAL BUT I DO HAVE AND ENTERTAINMEANT CENTER I FREQUENTLY WRITE MY IDEAS ON
  • raves     [-] by Mollydolly
    Well that sounds like kind of journal to me. It really pisses me off that no one believed you. Now if you are at your dad's, and I guess I misunderstood when you said you were at your grandparents, is he still hurting you? This is important kiddo. Let me know. I can help you if you are being straight with me. I care very much for you and will do everything I can to keep you safe. Honest. I do not lie.,
  • raves     [-] by MIss Placed
    no hes not and i stay away from him as much as possible ...so yea but thank you for your concern