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No, they never did. It's like when I ws watching the documentary American Hardcore. I think it was one of the members from SSD that said 'All these other bands that come out nowadays and say they're punk, they're not punk. You know, they're going around the country in tour buses and they have a lot of money, nad they came from good families. That's not punk. Real punk is dead'
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Wellthat's what one guy said. ANd yes I do believe so, because I mena look at pretty much every punk band that was around back then. They didn't come from well to do families, and they were pissed off all the time. That's how punk started and all that. To play real punk you have to experience the punk lifestyle.
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I think punk goes beyond rhythm, melody and screaming. I saw the same American Hardcore and some other punk documentaries (a whole bunch of them for some reason on tv lately) and attitude plays a much bigger factor for me. Like Velvet Underground and Lou Reed stuff has punk personality, but not the sounds of Clash or Sex Pistols.
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Hm yes I do guess the music would be more effective or meaningful not only to themself but to others if the lyricist was inspired by actual events, but not saying the members of Green Day all came from exactly wealthy families.
Take Mike Dirnt, the bassist for example. At the age of 6 weeks he was given up for adoption by his heroine addicted mother & lived with foster parents for most of is life until he met Billie Joe, I dunno his exact life story but he lived in Billie Joe's house for most of his teenage years but always had to have part-time jobs to support his schooling as Billie Joes family only supported him with food, bedding, etc.
He almost never graduated as his part-time jobs kept him busy, so he didn't show many days to school or whatever...
Billie Joe's dad died when he was 10 & his mother had to work overtime to support the family so didn't spend much time with the kids & the income was still low & blah blah
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That's actually pretty normal when you think of all the shit that happened to say the Sex Pistols and what not. Hell in the 80s punk bands were getting harassed by the police....greenday was never harassed. Besdies, they're a pop-punk band....that's not punk.
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I dont listen to them, but I do know the name of their publicised songs "Anarchy in the UK" & "God Save the Queen"?
I dont know about them that well, but yes, of course I know who they are!
I have a CD of Johnny Rottens band after Sex Pistols finished...Public Image. -
You should definantly look them up. There's a reasonwhy Sid Vicious is the iamge boy for punk.....he lived the punk life to a T. Just look at what happened to him.
Addicited to heroin, his girlfriend was murdered, possibly by him, and he died of a heroin overdose.....heroin which his mother injected into him. -
check this rockumentary out when you have a chance; The Filth and the Fury
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This is not a yes-no question. The thing is, they used to be pop/punk back in the day, which is why many people think they were never punk at all, just the same way they believe that Blink 182, Avril Lavigne, and Good Charlotte aren't punk at all. They were about equal in punk-ness as, say, The Offspring. A lot of it just depends on what kind of punk, if any, you listen to. That's why people fight over this so much. Personally, I like old-school punk, so at least I can understand where they're coming from with the whole punk idea. If you only listen to post....well, then, you're not going to think any of who I named right now are punk at all, see?
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No. Punk would be:Black Flag
Sex Pistols
Bad Brains
SS Decontrol
The Misfits
The Clash
The Ramones