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Read below this information comes from Congressional research service:http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf.)
> >>>> DO YOU THINK THIS WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES?
> >>>>
> >>>> Military Losses, 1980 thru 2007
> >>>> Whatever your politics, however you lean, and
> >>>> however
> >>>> you feel about the current administration, this
> >>>> report
> >>>> should open some eyes. Military losses, 1980 through
> >>>> 2007.
> >>>>
> >>>> As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed
> >>>> Forces is, consider
> >>>> the following statistics:
> >>>> The annual fatalities of military members while
> >>>> actively
> >>>> serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006
> >>>> - by
> >>>> any cause.
> >>>> 1980 .......... 2,392 ( Carter Year )
> >>>> 1981 .......... 2,380 ( Reagan Year)
> >>>> 1984 .......... 1,999 ( Reagan Year)
> >>>> 1988 .......... 1,819 ( Reagan Year)
> >>>> 1989 .......... 1,636 ( George H W Year )
> >>>> 1990 .......... 1,508 ( George H W Year )
> >>>> 1991 .......... 1,787 ( George H W Year )
> >>>> 1992 .......... 1,293 ( George H W Year )
> >>>> 1993 .......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1994 .......... 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1995 .......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1996 .......... 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1997 .......... 817 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 2000 ...........1,983 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 2001 ............ 890 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2002 .......... 1,007 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2003 .......... 1,410 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2004 .......... 1,887 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2005 ............ 919 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2006............. 920 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2007............ 899 ( George W Year )
> >>>>
> >>>> Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths
> >>>> George W years (2001-2007): 7,932 deaths
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are surprised when you look at these
> >>>> figures, so
> >>>> was I. These figures mean that the loss from the two
> >>>> latest conflicts in the Middle East Are LESS than
> >>>> the
> >>>> loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton 's
> >>>> presidency; When America wasn't even involved in a
> >>>> war!
> >>>> (Unless you include Bosnia or the disgrace of
> >>>> Mogadishu,
> >>>> Somalia when Clinton failed to respond to
> >>>> terrorists;
> >>>> Remember 'Blackhawk Down'?)
> >>>>
> >>>> And, I was even more shocked ! when I read that in
> >>>> 1980, during the reign of President (Nobel Peace
> >>>> Prize
> >>>> winner) Jimmy Carter , there were 2,392 US military
> >>>> fatalities! >From what? How?
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that these figures indicate that many
> >>>> members of
> >>>> our Media and our
> >>>> Politicians will pick and choose the information on
> >>>> which
> >>>> they report. Of course we all know that they
> >>>> present only
> >>>> those 'facts' which support their agenda-driven
> >>>> reporting. But why do so many of them march in lock-
> >>>> step
> >>>> to twist the truth? Where do so many of them get
> >>>> their
> >>>> agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda. Could
> >>>> it be
> >>>> from the most powerful Democratic family of the
> >>>> decade?
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you want further proof? Consider the latest
> >>>> census of
> >>>> Americans. It shows the following FACTS about the
> >>>> distribution of American citizens, by race:
> >>>>
> >>>> European descent ..........................69.12%
> >>>> Hispanic...................................12.5%
> >>>> Black .................... ................12.3%
> >>>> Asian...................................... 3.7%
> >>>> Native American............................ 1.0%
> >>>> Other...................................... 2.6%
> >>>>
> >>>> Many media lead us to feel the military death ratio
> >>>> is
> >>>> off balanced compared to the distribution by race in
> >>>> America . Here are the fatalities by RACE over the
> >>>> past
> >>>> three years in Iraqi Freedom. Do the comparison
> >>>> yourself.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> European descent (white) ...........74.31%
> >>>> Hispanic............................10.74%
> >>>> Black .............................. 9.67%
> >>>> Asian............................... 1.81%
> >>>> Native American..................... 1.09%
> >>>> Other............................... 0.33%
> >>>>
> >>>> I was surprised again. Our mainstream media
> >>>> continues to
> >>>> spin these figures
> >>>> (for political gain). Nothing more. It's all about
> >>>> politics.
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope that during the time between now and November,
> >>>> intelligent Americans can decipher:
> >>>> the facts from the spin, the spinners from the
> >>>> leaders,
> >>>> those who seek even more power from those that seek
> >>>> justice, and the dividers from the uniters.
> >>>>
> >>>> Over the next months let's be good listeners and
> >>>> see and
> >>>> hear who tries to divide our ! nation; and who
> >>>> wants to
> >>>> unite our nation. Who wants to control how our
> >>>> money is
> >>>> spent and who wants our money spent the way we would
> >>>> spend it. Who seeks
> >>>> power and who seeks justice? Who spins the facts
> >>>> and who
> >>>> is genuine.
> >>>>
> >>>> (These statistics are published by Congressional
> >>>> Research
> >>>> Service, and
> >>>> they may be confirmed by anyone at:
> >>>> http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf.)
> >>>>
> >>>> 'History does not entrust the care of freedom to
> >>>> the weak
> >>>> or timid.' -
> >>>> Dwight D. Eisenhower
> >>>> DO YOU THINK THIS WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES?
> >>>>
> >>>> Military Losses, 1980 thru 2007
> >>>> Whatever your politics, however you lean, and
> >>>> however
> >>>> you feel about the current administration, this
> >>>> report
> >>>> should open some eyes. Military losses, 1980 through
> >>>> 2007.
> >>>>
> >>>> As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed
> >>>> Forces is, consider
> >>>> the following statistics:
> >>>> The annual fatalities of military members while
> >>>> actively
> >>>> serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006
> >>>> - by
> >>>> any cause.
> >>>> 1980 .......... 2,392 ( Carter Year )
> >>>> 1981 .......... 2,380 ( Reagan Year)
> >>>> 1984 .......... 1,999 ( Reagan Year)
> >>>> 1988 .......... 1,819 ( Reagan Year)
> >>>> 1989 .......... 1,636 ( George H W Year )
> >>>> 1990 .......... 1,508 ( George H W Year )
> >>>> 1991 .......... 1,787 ( George H W Year )
> >>>> 1992 .......... 1,293 ( George H W Year )
> >>>> 1993 .......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1994 .......... 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1995 .......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1996 .......... 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1997 .......... 817 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 2000 ...........1,983 ( Clinton Year)
> >>>> 2001 ............ 890 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2002 .......... 1,007 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2003 .......... 1,410 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2004 .......... 1,887 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2005 ............ 919 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2006............. 920 ( George W Year )
> >>>> 2007............ 899 ( George W Year )
> >>>>
> >>>> Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths
> >>>> George W years (2001-2007): 7,932 deaths
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are surprised when you look at these
> >>>> figures, so
> >>>> was I. These figures mean that the loss from the two
> >>>> latest conflicts in the Middle East Are LESS than
> >>>> the
> >>>> loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton 's
> >>>> presidency; When America wasn't even involved in a
> >>>> war!
> >>>> (Unless you include Bosnia or the disgrace of
> >>>> Mogadishu,
> >>>> Somalia when Clinton failed to respond to
> >>>> terrorists;
> >>>> Remember 'Blackhawk Down'?)
> >>>>
> >>>> And, I was even more shocked ! when I read that in
> >>>> 1980, during the reign of President (Nobel Peace
> >>>> Prize
> >>>> winner) Jimmy Carter , there were 2,392 US military
> >>>> fatalities! >From what? How?
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that these figures indicate that many
> >>>> members of
> >>>> our Media and our
> >>>> Politicians will pick and choose the information on
> >>>> which
> >>>> they report. Of course we all know that they
> >>>> present only
> >>>> those 'facts' which support their agenda-driven
> >>>> reporting. But why do so many of them march in lock-
> >>>> step
> >>>> to twist the truth? Where do so many of them get
> >>>> their
> >>>> agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda. Could
> >>>> it be
> >>>> from the most powerful Democratic family of the
> >>>> decade?
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you want further proof? Consider the latest
> >>>> census of
> >>>> Americans. It shows the following FACTS about the
> >>>> distribution of American citizens, by race:
> >>>>
> >>>> European descent ..........................69.12%
> >>>> Hispanic...................................12.5%
> >>>> Black .................... ................12.3%
> >>>> Asian...................................... 3.7%
> >>>> Native American............................ 1.0%
> >>>> Other...................................... 2.6%
> >>>>
> >>>> Many media lead us to feel the military death ratio
> >>>> is
> >>>> off balanced compared to the distribution by race in
> >>>> America . Here are the fatalities by RACE over the
> >>>> past
> >>>> three years in Iraqi Freedom. Do the comparison
> >>>> yourself.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> European descent (white) ...........74.31%
> >>>> Hispanic............................10.74%
> >>>> Black .............................. 9.67%
> >>>> Asian............................... 1.81%
> >>>> Native American..................... 1.09%
> >>>> Other............................... 0.33%
> >>>>
> >>>> I was surprised again. Our mainstream media
> >>>> continues to
> >>>> spin these figures
> >>>> (for political gain). Nothing more. It's all about
> >>>> politics.
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope that during the time between now and November,
> >>>> intelligent Americans can decipher:
> >>>> the facts from the spin, the spinners from the
> >>>> leaders,
> >>>> those who seek even more power from those that seek
> >>>> justice, and the dividers from the uniters.
> >>>>
> >>>> Over the next months let's be good listeners and
> >>>> see and
> >>>> hear who tries to divide our ! nation; and who
> >>>> wants to
> >>>> unite our nation. Who wants to control how our
> >>>> money is
> >>>> spent and who wants our money spent the way we would
> >>>> spend it. Who seeks
> >>>> power and who seeks justice? Who spins the facts
> >>>> and who
> >>>> is genuine.
> >>>>
> >>>> (These statistics are published by Congressional
> >>>> Research
> >>>> Service, and
> >>>> they may be confirmed by anyone at:
> >>>> http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf.)
> >>>>
> >>>> 'History does not entrust the care of freedom to
> >>>> the weak
> >>>> or timid.' -
> >>>> Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Answered YES
Lets not forget how many troops of ours were lost during WW I & II and parts of Vietnam that took place under Democratic presidency.
Any war will have casualties, but this could speak volumes of the leadership abilities of these so-called "great" presidents like FDR and Clinton. -
You are correct, and now if only the Liberals would read and understand that their beloved Liberal Presidents are crooked and killing our Men and Women for votes and Political gain. I am waiting for some Liberals to respond but they wont because most Liberals do not like in your face FACTS!!! FDR, Clinton and Carter were idiots in this part of the Presidency.
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I am tired of hearing the Liberals bash Bush, Reagan & Bush Jr. and they think idiots like Clinton, Carter, Kennedy and FDR are/were perfect. I love finding info like this because the media will never print facts all they print are lies that makes idiots like the Clintons and Obama look good. I will continue to surf the web to find info that will discredit Liberals!!!
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Answered YES
All loss is sad but freedom is not free! In the hands of "Liberals"
you are always at greater risk because "appeasement" is the politically correct approach to danger. Our enemies just "hate" us because we are "bullies"! "If we could just sit down and discuss this we could fine a solution"! The emotional approach is superior to action. As a result more lives are lost in delay and discussion! Thank OBAMA will "change" this? Now that's funny!
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Marine , you have to understand Allagash is a liberal , so even when he is presented with the facts he is in denial! Thanks for posting this question marine and as always much love and respect to you for serving our country and giving libs the freedom of speech.
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I am glad your feeling better .Surgery is always tough . drop me an email so I can keep you in my prayers when you go through these things .My son deploys for Iraq in Oct . He has been home for about 21/2 weeks visiting! He leaves sunday to go back to base



Answered NO
It's great ammo. Carter and Gore are the two most worthless politicians in my lifetime. Nobody dared mess with us when Reagan was president . I was in the army during his presidency and knew I was safe.