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HR 5843=End To Pot Possession Arrests ?

Members of Congress Demand An End To Pot Possession Arrests

Wednesday, July 30, 2008: At a press conference held this morning, members of Congress called on their fellow lawmakers to remove all federal penalties that criminalize the possession and use of marijuana by adults.

“To those who say that the government should not be encouraging the smoking of marijuana, my response is that I completely agree,” said Representative Barney Frank (D-MA). “But it is a great mistake to divide all human activity into two categories: those that are criminally prohibited, and those that are encouraged. In a free society, there must be a very considerable zone of activity between those two poles in which people are allowed to make their own choices as long as they are not impinging on the rights, freedom, or property of others. I believe … criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are unwise ones, when the choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others, is not appropriate in a free society.”

Rep. Frank, along with co-sponsors Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) and Lacy Clay (D-MO), urged lawmakers to support HR 5843, An Act To Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults, which would eliminate federal penalties for possession of up to 100 grams of marijuana, and for the not-for-profit transfer of up to one ounce of marijuana. Other co-sponsors of the measure include Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI); Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-OR); Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA); Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) and Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX).

This proposal reflects the basic recommendations of the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse (aka the Shafer Commission) in its groundbreaking report to Congress in 1972 titled Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding.

“There is absolutely nothing wrong with the responsible use of marijuana by adults and this should be of no interest or concern to the government,” said NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre. “It makes no sense to continue to treat nearly half of all Americans as criminals. “
“I am a 43-year-old man, a graduate of the University of Massachusetts, I pay my taxes and, like millions of other Americans, I occasionally smoke marijuana. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would wish to treat me like a criminal, based on my responsible use of marijuana. It is time we stopped arresting responsible marijuana smokers, and HR 5843 would do that under federal law.”

This is the first federal marijuana decriminalization bill to be introduced in Congress since 1978, and reflects the changing public attitudes that no longer support treating responsible marijuana smokers like criminals. According to a nationwide Time/CNN poll, three out of four Americans now favor a fine only, and no jail, for adults who possess or use small amounts of marijuana.

Each year in this country we arrest more and more of our citizens on marijuana charges. In 2006, the last year for which the data are available, we arrested 830,000 Americans on marijuana charges, and 88 percent of those arrests were for personal possession and use, not trafficking. They were otherwise law-abiding citizens who smoke marijuana.

Since 1965, a total of nearly 20 million Americans - predominantly young people under the age of 30 -- have been arrested on marijuana charges; more than 11 million marijuana arrests just since 1990.

Currently 47 percent of all drug arrests in this country are for marijuana, and another marijuana smoker is arrested every 38 seconds. Police arrest more people on marijuana charges each year than the total number of arrestees for all violent crimes combined, including murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

As President Jimmy Carter said in a message to Congress in 1977, “Penalties against drug use should not be more damaging to the individual than the use of the drug itself. Nowhere is this more clear than in the laws against the possession of marijuana in private for personal use.”
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raves +4   by RubyTuesday

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  • raves     [-] by Chase

    Answered Yes...

    This sacred plant needs to be completely legalized. I believe if an adult (18 years or older) decides to consume, grow, sell, buy, manufacture, ect, should be able to make the choice of using it in any way they need or want as long as it does not infringe on other people's rights or proporty. If it were legally grown and destributed while being taxed and manufactured into the many things that it can be made into, it would stimulate our economy, we would have healthier people, a new food source, and help the environment in many ways. This NEEDS to be fully legallized and the first step to that is to get the FDA out of the equasion.
  • raves     [-] by Old_Dude

    Answered No...

    Lobbyists were the original cause of criminalization, and they finance campaigns, so law makers do their bidding for them. Some lobbyists wanted marijuana criminalized so that they could also end hemp farming in the us, primarily so that hemp fibers would not be in competition with synthetic fibers that were starting to emerge. These lobbyists were on Dupont’s payroll. Another group sought for the criminalization simply due to the fact that marijuana use was primarily associated with Mexicans, these were the ones that had a hand in the production of the vintage propaganda films, posters, etc.

    Today, most private citizens realize that there is no such thing as “Refer Madness”. Also, most private citizens also realize that industrial hemp plants are not the same as marijuana plants. Additionally, most people around the world recognize that people do not beat the family and rob the corner liquor store after smoking a joint, but alcohol, though legal, can have this affect. In fact, compared to alcohol, marijuana is relatively lame. So why is it still illegal?

    Money. Specifically, Uncle Sam’s money. When you criminalize something you generate a ton of revenue for the government in fines, court costs, etc. The amount of revenue the government generates from “offend...
    Lobbyists were the original cause of criminalization, and they finance campaigns, so law makers do their bidding for them. Some lobbyists wanted marijuana criminalized so that they could also end hemp farming in the us, primarily so that hemp fibers would not be in competition with synthetic fibers that were starting to emerge. These lobbyists were on Dupont’s payroll. Another group sought for the criminalization simply due to the fact that marijuana use was primarily associated with Mexicans, these were the ones that had a hand in the production of the vintage propaganda films, posters, etc.

    Today, most private citizens realize that there is no such thing as “Refer Madness”. Also, most private citizens also realize that industrial hemp plants are not the same as marijuana plants. Additionally, most people around the world recognize that people do not beat the family and rob the corner liquor store after smoking a joint, but alcohol, though legal, can have this affect. In fact, compared to alcohol, marijuana is relatively lame. So why is it still illegal?

    Money. Specifically, Uncle Sam’s money. When you criminalize something you generate a ton of revenue for the government in fines, court costs, etc. The amount of revenue the government generates from “offenders” more than offsets the cost of “the war on drugs”. Also, many people’s jobs are based around marijuana being illegal. Make it legal and people lose jobs, the government loses money, people that are incarcerated on marijuana offenses have to go free and the for-profit prison system loses money. (Incidentally, there are people in prison RIGHT NOW for LIFE, on FEDERAL drug charges, that were convicted for being in possession of a single joint or less!.)

    I recently quit smoking. However, I smoked for 30 years. I’m now at the age that I’m starting to slack off on the recreational “activites” in favor of a more healthy lifestyle. But don’t get me wrong, if a person wants to grow it and smoke it, the government has no right to tell them that they cannot. The thought that the government can tell you that you can’t grow and smoke a plant is almost laughable (but I’ll hold my laughter out of respect for those people that are in prison as a result.)

    So how do you make it legal? Through a blatant disregard for the law. You overwhelm the system with offenders. If every pot smoker went out tomorrow and started smoking on the street the system could not process them all. Sure, a few would end up in jail, but there are more pot smokers than there are currently people in prison. The worst they could do is impose fines and put people on probation, but they wouldn’t because they would have to hire a hundred times more government employees than they currently have to enforce the fines and the terms of probation. Processing all of the offenders through the courts would take years, new buildings, courthouses and prisons would have to be constructed, people would die of old age before their court date even came around.

    Figure out how to organize the great “Smoking In The Streets” day and you’ll be able to end the criminalization of marijuana in America. As is, they catch them one at a time and milk them. But what if suddenly there were tens of millions of offenders on the streets, all blazing up in simultaneous protest?

    Many people think that marijuana is legal in Amsterdam, but in fact it is not. They just don’t enforce the laws pertaining to it. I’ve been to Amsterdam and it was a wonderful place. America could be that way, but we’re not going to get there unless we all stand up, together, and say “F__K YOU UNCLE SAM!!!)
  • raves +1   [-] by doc

    Answered Undecided

    Well folks, here we go again!

    Oh c'mon Rog, not more numbers and stats? I thought we already decided that it's not the breed, it's the owner. And I don't care that the AKC says it's not a breed. The ADBA recognizes it and so do I.

    But have it your way. If you say that most accidents happen within 20 miles of home, then I'm moving 20 miles out, away from mine.

    But if you wanna start it up again, I'm sure I still have matty's phone number and get urge him to come back to argue...



    Huh? What? I'm on the wrong poll?

    Duh!

    Sorry Rog!
    Have a GREAT weekend!
  • raves +1   [-] Rog [Ninja]™ replied to doc
    Do Some of us need to cut down on the Medication? LOL
  • raves +1   [-] by Edventure

    Answered Undecided

    Maybe but dont let the polls tax it.
  • raves +3   [-] by grizzly

    Answered Undecided

    I think u people need 2 c reefer madness !! undecided people 2 reefer madness
  • raves +2   [-] Rog [Ninja]™ replied to grizzly
    Propaganda?
  • raves +2   [-] grizzly replied to Rog [Ninja]™
  • raves +2   [-] Rog [Ninja]™ replied to grizzly
    Funny.
    I never actually, met a teacher or proffessor like that.
    most of the instructors (who used MJ) I came into contact with were very proffessional and never used on the job.
    I have met alot of Hung-Over Instructors, who where definately showing the effects of alcohol. contact proffessional job met alot hung-over instructors definately effects alcohol
  • raves +1   [-] WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB replied to grizzly
    Griz, do you know why I don't smoke pot? It's not the unenforceable laws or social stigma, it's because it makes me giggle. That's it, nothing more
    But I am seriously considering copping a bag, I need some laughs right now.
  • raves +2   [-] Rog [Ninja]™ replied to WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    I don't smoke pot or drink. BUT, I could benefit from it's use.
    The uses as Medication are growing.
    The benefits and/or side effects are mostly productive, depending on means of application and delivery.
    also, while haveing a semi-related convo. with my DR. He mentioned various studies he had been following up, on the uses of MJ to treat types of Drug Addiction (incl. Smoking Cigs). That's when I heard him mention HARM reduction.
    Ever hear of HARM reduction? It's related to types of treatment for various drug problems.
    http://www.harmreduction.org/...
    some good reading as well.
  • raves +2   [-] WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB replied to Rog [Ninja]™
    Hey, this is some good stuff (no pun intended). I love learning new things.
    Thanks Rog.
  • raves +3   [-] grizzly replied to WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
  • raves +2   [-] by Shelvis

    Answered Yes...

    I think pot is not a big deal really. Every where I go every state every countrey poeple smoke it. Give it up and let it go. pot deal countrey poeple smoke
  • raves +1   [-] by Rog [Ninja]™

    Answered Yes...

    Implications from this would be wide spread...
    Legalize Hemp!
    Maybe some day I'll be able to Utilize hemp products produced in the US.
    Drinking on the job is an example of irresponsible.
    Driving a vehicle under the influence (of any mind altering substance) is an example of irresponsible.
    Responsible Choices?
    Rep. Frank said it pretty good,
    “But it is a great mistake to divide all human activity into two categories: those that are criminally prohibited, and those that are encouraged. In a free society, there must be a very considerable zone of activity between those two poles in which people are allowed to make their own choices as long as they are not impinging on the rights, freedom, or property of others. I believe … criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are unwise ones, when the choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others, is not appropriate in a free society.”
    I have an idea for an other Question.
  • raves +3   [-] by Madhatter-59 Days and counting

    Answered Yes...

    ABOUT TIME!!!
  • raves +2   [-] by Angel

    Answered Yes...

    pot is no worse or not as bad as alcohol , people shoudn't go to jail over it
  • raves +2   [-] by WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB

    Answered No...

    You can not control a free man. However, if you make a criminal of him, persecute and degrade, then his life and death are in the palm of your hand.
    Our betters want dependent slaves.
  • raves +4   [-] by RubyTuesday

    Answered Yes...

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  • raves +3   [-] by He killed his own name

    Answered Yes...

    The bill would end marijuana arrests.
  • raves +3   [-] by Boss Hogg~NOBama

    Answered Yes...

    Make it happen Congress!