Aug 18, 2008 06:40PM GMT
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Is it time to legalize illicit drugs?
THE AMERICASBy MARY ANASTASIA O'GRADY
Mexico Pays the Price of Prohibition
August 18, 2008; Page A13
With the world fixated on Vladimir Putin's expansionist exploits in Georgia, a different sort of assault against a democracy south of the U.S. border is getting scant attention. But it is equally alarming.
Mexico is engaged in a life-or-death struggle against organized crime. Last week six more law enforcement officials were killed in the line of duty battling the country's drug cartels. This brings the death toll in President Felipe Calderón's blitz against organized crime to 4,909 since Dec. 1, 2006.
Americas columnist Mary O'Grady tells Kelsey Hubbard how the U.S. War on Drugs and the demand for narcotics is taking its toll on Mexico. (Aug. 18)
A number of the dead have been gangsters but they also include journalists, politicians, judges, police and military, and civilians. For perspective on how violent Mexico has become, consider that the total number of Americans killed in Iraq since March 2003 is 4,142.
Kidnapping and armed robbery numbers have also soared. In Tijuana, a kidnapping epidemic has provoked an exodus of upper-middle-class families across the U.S. border in search of safety.
As this column has pointed out many times, one reason that security has so deteriorated in the past decade is the demand in the U.S. for illegal narcotics, and the U.S. government's crackdown on the Caribbean trafficking route. Mexican cartels have risen up to serve the U.S. market, and their earnings have made them rich and well-armed.
The victims of last week's killing spree include the deputy police chief of the state of Michoacan and one of his men, a detective in the state of Chihuahua, and a deputy police chief in the state of Quintana Roo. As of July, 449 police and military officers have died in the Calderón offensive, further underscoring the price Mexico is paying for the U.S. "war on drugs." But the costs go well beyond the loss of life.
In a developed country like the U.S., prohibition takes a toll on the rule of law but does not overwhelm it. In Mexico, where a newly revived democracy is trying to reform institutions after 70 years of autocratic governance under the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), the corrupting influence of drug profits is far more pernicious.
According to Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora, part of the explanation for the kidnapping surge can be traced to the success of the government's squeeze on the drug runners. He told me in February that he expected the pressure to produce a fragmentation of the cartels, turf wars and an increase in other criminal activities to replace shrinking profits in drug trafficking.
If true, the kidnapping spree might be a sign that Mr. Medina Mora's strategy is working. But when federal investigators recently fingered Mexico City police in the kidnapping and murder of 14-year-old Fernando Martí, the son of a wealthy entrepreneur, Mr. Medina Mora's theory lost some credibility. Rather than being the work of demoralized criminals, kidnapping, in the capital anyway, appears to be just one business run by a well-oiled machine with institutional links.
Ricardo Medina, a leading Mexican opinion writer and the editor of El Economista, the country's top financial daily, told me on Thursday the case shows that "independent of the shooting war on drugs there is the problem of institutions being infiltrated by criminals and corrupted."
Even captured criminals often go free, Mr. Medina says, and all branches of government share responsibility for this crisis of impunity. It is true that judges can be intimidated or bribed. But it is also true, for example, that under Mexican law kidnapping is not a federal crime, and therefore must be handled by local authorities. Often victims do not want to press charges because there is a perception that the local police and local governments are in on it.
That perception has been strengthened in the Martí case, but the problem of impunity is hardly new. As Mr. Medina wrote in El Economista on Friday, "impunity is in view of everyone, day after day. We all see it even to the point of smiling ironically or shrugging our shoulders."
Why hasn't this problem been tackled? One possible explanation in Mexico City is that the district police and the rest of the district's bureaucracy represent an important constituency for the ruling Revolutionary Democratic Party (PRD). If the PRD's base prefers the status quo, there is a high political cost to challenging it.
Drug profits going to organized crime only complicate the matter. Writing in the latest issue of the Milken Institute Review, former U.S. foreign service officer Laurence Kerr takes a page out of U.S. history. "America has been in Mexico's shoes: flush with the bounty of illegal liquor sales, organized crime thoroughly penetrated the U.S. justice system during Prohibition. As long as Americans willingly bury Mexican drug traffickers in greenbacks, progress in constraining the trade is likely to be limited." Regrettably, Mexico's institutional reform will also be limited and the death toll will keep climbing.
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raves +3 posted Aug 21, 2008 12:19AM GMT (edited)
Answered Yes because...
legalization takes the criminal activity out of the equation, Prohibition didn't work and illegal drugs don't work either, people that think it would cause more proplems are not facing the problem with full knowledge of the world of addiction, making drugs legal will not cause an increase in use, my niece was recently in netherlands and pot is legal there and they do not have an increase of use we talked about how it is handled there, I am also for legalization of prostitution take a bite out of crime. -
raves +2 posted Aug 20, 2008 03:01PM GMT
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raves +1 Aug 21, 2008 04:31PM GMT
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raves +2 Aug 21, 2008 12:49AM GMT (edited)sure you can,, LSD is legal.. atleast it is in the form of prozac which ups a significant portion of the prescribed populations seritonin levels IDENTICALLY to how LSD does causing paranoia, hallucinations and psychosis. (columbine, the woman who drowned her kids in the tub , Vtech the list goes on of SSRI psychosis episodes gone bad)...... image in heroin were legal oh wait again it is.. its call oxycodone or 'hillbilly heroin' .. image humm if speed and amphetamines were legal... arrg wait yes that too its called Ritalin.......
ALL of these drugs are already legal but ONLY if you buy them from the GOVERNMENTS Drug Dealers!! And guess what? They are causing all kinds of problems because HERES your problem and HERES your solution both from the same group!! -
raves +2 Aug 21, 2008 01:43AM GMTI seriously think people need to start taking back their lives. I do not know how in the last 30 years we have slowly asked and yes I believe we have asked the government to take care of us. We have done this by too many government programs, allowing the government to tell us how to raise our children, and allowing them to control what we eat. I am appalled and this is the American citizens fault, not our politicians, we ask for this and they simply provide a service. I really hope people understand that.
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raves +3 posted Aug 19, 2008 02:08AM GMT
Answered Yes because...
On Marijuana I cannot see sending someone to prison for whiffing some weed. Poppy is like oxy-cotin and the doctors prescribe it like candy or use too.I think that the 30 year war on drugs has only imprison many people. Lets face it that war is over and it should have never been waged until we understand why before 9/11 the Afghan poppy fields were vacant now they are 100% productive. Same with Vietnam and the end result was the Golden Triangle was producing heroin for the governments with wars on drugs. So lets try 30 years without any such war on drugs and weight out what is best. After all Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. Last time I checked Cannabis produced its own seed. Good enough for me! -
raves +3 posted Aug 19, 2008 01:06AM GMT
Answered No because...
Why to save law enforcement lives, just legalize drugs so that this country can get more screwed up? More expensive to get more and more people off of drugs? Why don't we start killing the ones that are using and causing the problems Get rid of the wants and you get rid of the problem. This is insane. -
raves +3 Aug 19, 2008 02:17AM GMTWhat if we changed the want, lets say you want a new computer and someone less fortunate takes your attitude and trys to kill you because he does not like technology. See where I am going.....
I am not for murder because of ignorance on the subject matter. I just think that since 1974 ( correct me if I am wrong) we been at war with drugs and many innocent people got a smear job because they only smoked pot. That is wrong! -
raves +1 Aug 19, 2008 02:31AM GMTWhy. I did it. Maybe I'm a boring so and so but I didn't lose any sleep because I didn't test wheither or not law enforcement was serious about drugs. But what is comes to is the user feels he knows whats best for his body and has the right to choose what kind of "crutch" to use. That is a cop out
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Answered Yes because...
dude Iv been warning people about the war spilling over the border for years...... mabey its a good thing there hasnt been alot of focus because it would probably mean stiffer legalities..... frankly I think the only way this crazyness will ever be stopped is if americans take back america! Our politicians are slap happy with adding new laws which just keep making shit worse, getting our cops and citizens killed, and driving children to take pharmacudicals from their folks cabinets which are far worse and addictive to boot!