Sep 08, 2008 06:45AM GMT
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Obama's tax plan actually a marginal tax hike for the middle class. Is he trying to pull one over on us?
The Folly of Obama’s Tax Planhttp://www.american.com/archive/2008/august-08-08/the-folly-o...
By Alex Brill and Alan D. Viard Friday, August 8, 2008
Filed under: Economic Policy, Government & Politics
Senator Obama’s proposed ‘tax cuts for the middle class’ are actually marginal rate hikes in disguise.
Senator Barack Obama declared recently that he wants to “reform our tax code so that it rewards work and not just wealth.” We think that is a great goal if it means a simple tax system with low marginal tax rates. Unfortunately, a close inspection of Obama’s proposals reveals something disquieting: he would raise marginal tax rates for many middle-income taxpayers, a bad move for anyone seeking to promote economic growth.
Although Obama is offering a new series of tax breaks, they undermine rather than improve economic incentives. First, whether or not you get those breaks will depend on your income. In Washington, taking away tax breaks as families work harder to make more money is called a “phase-out.” Economists have a different name for it—we call it a tax. Reducing a person’s tax credit as his income goes up also reduces his incentive to earn more income.
Second, Obama would make some credits refundable for families with credits bigger than their tax liability, which would also have the nefarious effect of raising marginal tax rates. For example, consider a worker in the 10 percent bracket with $1,000 of tax liability before credits who claims $1,200 in credits. The tax impact of earning an extra $100 depends on whether the credit is refundable. If it’s not refundable, there’s no tax penalty on earning the extra $100 because the worker’s tax liability stays at zero. But if the credit is refundable, earning the extra money pushes the tax up from negative $200 to negative $190—that’s a 10 percent penalty on earning income.
Although Obama is offering a new series of tax breaks, they undermine rather than improve economic incentives.
The solid line in the nearby chart illustrates the effective marginal tax rate under Obama’s tax proposals (based on the authoritative “Preliminary Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates’ Tax Plans,” published by the Brookings Institution/Urban Institute’s Tax Policy Center). These are the marginal rates in 2009 for a two-earner couple with two children—a college freshman and a 12-year-old receiving after-school care—under some specific assumptions. For comparison, the dotted line on the chart illustrates the effective tax rates under current law. The rates shown in the chart are not spelled out in the tax code; they are the result of giving and taking away tax breaks as the household’s income changes.
As the chart shows, Obama’s give-and-take tax policy results in marginal tax rates of 34 percent to 39 percent in the $31,000 to $45,000 income range for this family. That’s an increase of 13 percentage points or more from the current rates.
What accounts for the higher rates? First, Obama expands the maximum child and dependent care credit for families with one young child from $1,050 to $1,500 and phases down the credit over a longer income range, from $30,000 to $58,000. Throughout this income range, the credit is phasing out at a rate of $30 per $1,000 of income, thus raising the effective tax rate by 3 percentage points. Obama also makes certain credits refundable, which introduces a tax penalty of 10 percent or 15 percent, depending on the income bracket.
While Obama has publicly embraced a tax rate of 40 percent for couples earning over $350,000, his tax policies would result in a staggering 45 percent effective marginal rate in the $110,000 to $120,000 income range for this family. That is 11 percentage points higher than under current law.

The culprit in this case is Obama’s proposed reform of the Hope Scholarship Tax Credit for college tuition, which he would rename the “American Opportunity Tax Credit.” He would increase the credit’s maximum value from $1,800 to $4,000 while still phasing out the credit over the same income range, $100,000 to $120,000. The larger phase-out would boost the penalty on work from 9 percentage points to 20 percentage points.
Although Senator John McCain would not eliminate the existing phase-outs, he would avoid adding new ones, with one small and temporary exception. While McCain has proposed increasing the personal exemption for children, he would make it immediately available only to lower-income taxpayers. Until the bigger exemption is offered to everyone in 2016, some households would face an additional effective marginal tax rate of about 2 percentage points.
To be sure, Obama’s proposals would not tarnish an otherwise pristine tax code. As the chart shows, the U.S. tax code is already littered with phase-ins and phase-outs. For that matter, it’s hard to know how much phase-outs actually discourage people from earning additional income. Because the phase-outs are so hard to decipher, many Americans may ignore them when making their work and saving decisions. Of course, those people are still burdened by the long and frustrating IRS worksheets required to compute the value of their tax credits; and creating a more confusing tax code certainly does not make for good government.
While both candidates will reduce their tax plans to clever sound bites, voters should consider how those plans would affect incentives to earn income. Unfortunately, Senator Obama’s proposed “tax cuts for the middle class” are actually marginal rate hikes in disguise.
Alex Brill is a research fellow and Alan D. Viard is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.
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raves +1 posted Nov 14, 2008 04:17AM GMT
Answered I want less taxes
I don't believe he has pulled the wool over anyone's eyes at all. He has told us what he is all about. What has happened is people opted not to actually listen to what the Commie said and never got past the word CHANGE. Idiots, the lot of them. They have no idea what they have done. Well, they will get a rude awakening when it is mandatory for their sons and daughters to become members of the National Civilian Security Force that he and Rahm Emanuel have been planning for the last two years. Blue is the new brown! Sieg Hussein!! -
raves posted Nov 11, 2008 04:23PM GMT
Answered None of the above
My initial thought was that he is pulling a fast one; however, that doesn't make him any different than any other politicians, Republican or Democrat. The phase in and phase outs have been in place for years under both Republican and Democratic governments.
Really the phase ins and phase outs are nothing more than a back handed way to reduce deductions thereby increasing taxation to the working middle class.
I guess that President Obama isn't going to be as big of a change agent to the middle class that he represented himself to be. In fairness to him, I'm not certain given our dire economic problems and governmental deficits he can afford to give major tax breaks. -
raves +1 posted Nov 03, 2008 09:09AM GMT
Answered Yes he is pulling another fastone
People simply forget that employers will simply fire employees to increase their gross income. An employer that makes over $250,000 pays a certain tax rate on his Gross income. If his/her rate goes up, he/she will simply increase his/her Gross pay by removing someone from his payroll. That someone will be the lower income worker, the group that gets the Tax break. This will offset the employer’s Gross thus making his Net take home payer the same as it was before the Obama changes. Who does this hurt? The middle class and the economy? When employers have money, they hire employees, when they don’t they won’t. This has already happened. When American Express got wind of Obama’s proposed employee hiring credit, they fired a whole lot of employees. This caused their Stock to spike. The Nation needs to understand employers are smarter than the government, and the government can’t get rid of them, because then there would not be any taxes, employees to pay them (those paid $250,000 or otherwise) or even a Nation, just a bunch of starving people in the streets, and no government. Time to waky waky America -
raves +1 posted Oct 18, 2008 04:38AM GMT
Answered Yes he is pulling another fastone
IF OBAMA STEALS (ACORN) HIS WAY IN...
Get ready for 'change' we haven't seen since 1965, or 1933
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raves posted Oct 13, 2008 10:43PM GMT
Answered I want less taxes
Being rich, I am smart enough to know that this article is propaganda, and that Obama will only raise taxes on rich people like me and give it to the middle class ... how outrageous!
God damn it, there is no reason on earth I should pay my fair share in taxes! I know that I wouldn't be able to fly around the world and go to lavish shrimp cocktail parties if I didn't use slave wage labor to sew my designer suits, as I contribute nothing to society by buying out corporations, stripping there assets, firing all their workers, and selling the pieces! Of course my lifestyle is completely dependent on the rest of society (I had a dream that I lived on a desert island and paid no taxes, but had no one to order around and build by expensive cars, boats, planes, and houses for me ... yuk!). But I can buy politicians on the cheap, and they keep my taxes virtually nonexistent, as they give me high dollar no bid government contracts; so screw you poor people and your kids! I don't care if you are actually working 10 times harder than me as you collect my garbage, making slave wages! I have mine, so buzz off! Lets just keep borrowing money from the Chinese and raping the planet; we won't ever have to pay it back because the world is going to end soon anyway! -
raves +1 Nov 11, 2008 04:30PM GMTI realize you are being sarcastic, but this is such over generalized, stereotypical liberal bull crap.
I will grant you there are some super rich executives, etc. that are ruthless in the pursuit of keeping all their wealth, but I must tell you that I see alot of people's tax returns who really get honked under the tax code and they are not super wealthy. They are the small business people of America. Many who make a better than average living, but are in no shape or position to rape and pillage the public coffers of America by skirting income taxes. I've seen the checks they write in taxes.
I know alot of people don't believe this, but if you are grossing $250,000 in a business, by the time you pay your expenses and make payroll that is in no way shape or form wealthy. It is middle class. I honestly wish people like you would try to grasp that concept. Clearly, people like you have never had exposure to a small business or tried to create a small business because you don't have the first clue of the astronomical amount of work it takes to make a small business succeed and make a payroll so their employees can survive.
Not everybody that is wealthy is Simon LaGreed like you would like to have everyone believe. -
raves +1 posted Oct 04, 2008 02:55AM GMT (edited)
Answered Undecided
If it is so patriotic to pay more taxes (as the common man will under Obama) why do Senators receive so many perks that the common man does not. Why do they get incredible retirement plans while the common man must scratch and fight for a plan than will never equal what the aristocrats in congress get (at taxpayer expense).
And Just when did any patriot in our past every say paying more taxes was a good thing?
Hey Biden you arrogant, ignorant, socialist trash - WTF do you think that Boston Tea party was all about? Real Patriots fought and shed their blood so we could be free of excessive taxation by opressive governments. Take you and your party's notion of patriotism and shove it up your lying a$$.
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raves +2 posted Sep 18, 2008 10:45PM GMT (edited)
Answered Yes he is pulling another fastone
Typical Liberal all they believe in is raising taxes. Look at Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy ect. Obama lies and the Liberals will be crying foul if he gets in Office and he raises their taxes. Liberals a vote for Obama means higher taxes, a lose of freedoms ect.. Obama sucks. -
raves +3 Nov 14, 2008 02:21AM GMTI do agree with that. JFK was more a Conservative than a Liberal, he made statements like "You can not tax a Nation into prosperity" and "Ask not what your Country can do for you but what you can do for your Country" and "We have an obligation and duty to protect our freedom and way of life" The Dems lost seats when LBJ took office. Ted Kennedy is a idiot but he will be in office till he dies.
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raves +1 posted Sep 18, 2008 11:54AM GMT
Answered Yes he is pulling another fastone
you know if people would just listen to the political analyst. not the biased ones that you find on the liberal front but the unbiased ones and just watch the right TV station and read the right books, people would know this. -
raves +3 posted Sep 18, 2008 04:59AM GMT
Answered Yes he is pulling another fastone
I have been writing about this for weeks.. First of all regarding his tax cuts.. he says he will reduce the taxes for 95% of Americans.. well that is an out and out lie..first of all..95% of Americans don't pay taxes.. so how can he reduce taxes for people that don't pay any already?? probably 30% or more don't pay taxes.. look just at the people in this country that live on social security.. they don't pay taxes as they don't make enough.. people who are retired can make as a couple about $40,000 including s.s. without paying taxes.. Do you realize how many people that is in this country?? so how is Obama going to make them pay less?? he isn't of course.. it is a lie..As for the marginal tax rate .. yes..he intends to eliminate the middle class.. we will all be poor class.. and his tax hikes to corporations will cause a loss of jobs big time.. in effect, he will be killing the economy of this country.. -
raves +3

Answered Yes he is pulling another fastone
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