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Did this cop go over the line?

raves +2   by Scott
Did this cop go over the line?
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This is video captured by a teenager who is, in his terms, was harassed by a cop and threatened with jail because the cop can think of "9 different reasons" to take him.
"This happened in a speed trap town in Missouri called St. George with only a few officers that think they have more power than they really do. This happened outside of their jurisdiction and they have no police powers, except for felonies in progress, where they stopped me, according to state law. "

Watch the video and tell me what you think. Was the kid looking for trouble and being a smart ass or did the Cop step over the line?
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raves +2   by Hank

Answered None of the above

Recording an officer or any person without their knowledge is against the law in the State of Florida. Apparently the kid was looking for a confrontation, thus recording the traffic stop. The kid was being a little stupid and disrespectful, the cop did the same thing and was also being a big jerk. Like someone posted, you dont know what type of stop the cop made just before the traffic stop. I hated working traffic, bad things happen to traffic cops, hit by cars, spit at, shot at, shot, kicked, bitten. We recently had a Sergeant shot and killed by a young punk in Central Florida. All my friends in law enforcement are still a little on edge, but the vast majority would be shocked and disappointed at this cops actions. You dont reduce your demeanor to that of the offender.
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  • raves     [-] by BOND007

    Answered Yes, that cop overreacted. His threats were not justified.

    that cop had no need to pull him over to start with
  • raves     [-] by Teedee

    Answered None of the above

    I think both were out of line...I know cops have to be careful with each stop...but this cop needs some classes on how to handle himself.
  • raves     [-] by reminder

    Answered Yes, that cop overreacted. His threats were not justified.

    A cop abusing his badge. I don't think the kid deserved the verbal abuse he got especially when the cop was out of his jurisdiction.
  • raves +2   [-] by Hank

    Answered None of the above

    Recording an officer or any person without their knowledge is against the law in the State of Florida. Apparently the kid was looking for a confrontation, thus recording the traffic stop. The kid was being a little stupid and disrespectful, the cop did the same thing and was also being a big jerk. Like someone posted, you dont know what type of stop the cop made just before the traffic stop. I hated working traffic, bad things happen to traffic cops, hit by cars, spit at, shot at, shot, kicked, bitten. We recently had a Sergeant shot and killed by a young punk in Central Florida. All my friends in law enforcement are still a little on edge, but the vast majority would be shocked and disappointed at this cops actions. You dont reduce your demeanor to that of the offender.
  • raves +1   [-] by Maggie Irish Eyes
    My brother-in-law, a police officer, was murdered during a traffic stop. The offender was speeding and his car went out of control. When my brother-in-law approached the offender's car, he was blown away by a sawed-off shotgun and died instantly leaving behind a widow and five children.
  • raves +1   [-] by Hank
    So sorry for your loss Maggie, you prove my point about never knowing what lies around the corner or at the next traffic stop for any officer. Will keep his family in our prayers.
  • raves +1   [-] by Maggie Irish Eyes
    Thanks, Hank. My sister's three sons and two daughters are grown, happily married, and enjoying lucrative careers. Through the years, the police department was very supportive of the family.
  • raves     [-] by Hank
    Every agency I have ever worked with or had any contact with is like a family in the truest sense of the word.
  • raves +2   [-] by Maggie Irish Eyes
    After my brother-in-law died, his co-workers threw a benefit dance for my sister. The hall, food, drinks, and entertainment were donated. It was a sold-out event. Enough money was raised to pay cash for my sister's house. Of course, in those days, property was a lot cheaper than today. Also, fellow officers checked on the family and took the boys to ballgames and other events. They never forgot!
  • raves +1   [-] by Spider20

    Answered None of the above

    The policeman went overboard at the beginning of the traffic stop, be he had some level of provocation from the driver.....when a cop stops you and begins asking questions, don't start with an attitude...you never know the type of action the policeman was involved in just prior to stopping you....it may have been a shooting of a fellow officer, or he may not have had any calls prior...both people calmed down as the conversation continued...as for the turn signal, although the indicator is working, were the outer signals working? Also, for all I know, the part of town where this took place could be an area of higher crime...who knows what happens at places like this lot???......not me, but I bet the local police do.....
  • raves     [-] by shiela33

    Answered Yes, that cop overreacted. His threats were not justified.

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  • raves     [-] by Hank
    The ticking noise was caused by the law enforcement officer's strobe lights. The recorder picked up the interference. BTW, all Cops do not abuse their power. This cop sounded a little "badge heavy" and should be spanked by his agency for acting like a total jerk !
  • raves +1   [-] by shiela33
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  • raves +1   [-] by Hank
    27 years full time 5 part time, now retired but still an instructor at one of the academies and do consultant work. If you did this where I worked you would be severely reprimanded first offense( could be fired) for what this cop did, second offense, you are fired after the I.A. was completed.
  • raves     [-] by shiela33
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  • raves +2   [-] by Hank
    The cop was extremely unprofessional. The foul language and his challenging the young man did not make matters any better. Our L.E.O.'s undergo annual training on "professional traffic stops", along with other required training on interpersonal communications skills, firearms qualification, vehicle operations and the training list goes on. It is not like on T.V. where they are kicking in doors and slamming folks to the ground during their entire shift. If you are not "thick skinned" or if you cannot take verbal abuse, you are in the wrong profession.
  • raves     [-] by shiela33
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  • raves     [-] by Hank
    Don't know anything about the cop in question other than what I heard, but does not sound like he graduated from the top of his class at the academy. Would also venture he does not have much experience. Also sounds like his agency needs to do some training in how to talk to people. Even people who are being terribly stupid and using poor judgment.
  • raves     [-] by shiela33
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