Sep 24, 2008 11:31PM GMT
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Money - Economy
Do you support or oppose a federal bailout of Wall Street?
Support or Oppose the bailout proposal by the Treasury and the Federal Reserve?
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raves posted Nov 24, 2008 12:45AM GMT
Answered Opposed
This is not a bailout, it's a continuation of the ripping off of Americans. They knew this was coming long before it became apparent to the public and did nothing. This bailout crap is just a continuation of padding the right pockets for the right people. This was a part of a well orchestrated take over by the dems to gain power. Now, they can show the NEED for more government control. -
raves posted Nov 19, 2008 10:03PM GMT
Answered Opposed
I WANT A FREE RIDE TOO. JUST LIKE PIGS FEEDING IN A TROUGH SO GOES THE CORRUPT, LYING, CHEATING, STEALING, GREED INFESTED, PHONEY, POLITICIANS. THE ONES LURKING IN THE BACKGROUND, SHAKING, WILL BE EXPOSED LIKE THE OTHERS. WE, THE PUBLIC, DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE ARE SELLING OURSELVES OUT AND WE MUST STOP. -
raves posted Oct 30, 2008 03:53AM GMT
Answered Opposed
Well, well, where to begin, I really dislike being robbed and then lied to about it. The masters of the Universe on the "street" made some seriously bad choices. Of course with the gov't strong arm tactics(Community Re-investment Act among others) and the Fed's playing fast and loose with the monetary policies sending incorrect signals, I suppose one could understand how or why they did it. However, thats no reason for me to have to pay for their goat screw. They futzed up let them pay fo it or go belly up. The quicker the better. Then we can get back to rebuilding the economy. -
raves posted Oct 29, 2008 09:32PM GMT
Answered Support
This is a tough one. Supporting the bailout is a little too strong. I understand why is was done so I can not say I opposed it. But at the same time, things fail in a capitalistic world and they just have to fail without bailout. If businesses were bailed out everytime they failed what significance would it be to succeed. -
raves +1 posted Oct 20, 2008 03:47AM GMT
Answered Opposed
If I am not mistaken, I bekieve the takeover by Peron and Chavez of their Countries, started with the Government taking control of the Banks in those Countries.
Can you imagine the Libs with control of The House, The Senate, The Oval Office and the Banks and Financial Institutions?????
It is Happening before our eyes and we are not doing a thing to stop it.........
Lib Government Wins, The People Loose......... -
raves Oct 02, 2008 03:33PM GMT (edited)your name fits your comment! I guess all you opposers just think we deserve a depression, and the government should just do nothing! Why is it wrong to try? Herbert Hoover did nothing, and we sunk further and further. The government should be firing off everything they have in their arsenal, even tax cuts. The great depression happened because not enought was done. The government can prevent it. Also, the owner of my work at Liberty Tax Service said that many new tax laws were thrown in as riders to override Obama's insane tax increases that are not just for the rich! His income tax might be for the rich but there are hundreds of other ways to be taxed if not thousands. We cannot just sit around and wait for something we dont deserve.
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raves Oct 02, 2008 09:40PM GMTWait... the stock market is crashing, the government is in a deficit, and we are spending billions on a war. Then now we want to give billions to a few top companies to keep them from crashing? That they "might" pay the majority back? Really? This is trying? or just rolling over and submitting to these companies telling them that they own this country, and that they are above the working class.
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raves +1 Oct 24, 2008 04:24PM GMTweezy.....
The problem is the Idiot Committee Chairmen in Congress and the Senate on Banking, Dodd, Dem,
Housing, Dodd, Dem
Finance, Frank, Dem
Ways & Means, Wrangle, Dem
Oversight, Waxman, Dem
These are the ones who have let the people dow, while accepting Millions in contributions to their campaign funds from the likes of those Companies we just bailed out.
Also, these same Politicans will be assiting Paulson in distributing those Bailout Funds to these same Companies ..........
Where is the Responsibility?????? The Dems........with some by Bush
One final note....During the economic glory of the Clinton era, the Republicans
controlled the Congress.......At the beginning of this decline per the Former FED Chairman.....the Dem's Controlled Congress.........
Pelosi, in all her glory of showing she had more power than Bush, did nothing to put controls in place, nor did she allow Bills to be voted on that would have put controlls in place. In case you did not know, the Speaker of the House, decides what Bills will be introduced to be voted on.......McCain did not stand a chance in his trying to push his through........
This is YOUR Government at work........YOU voted for it Last Time (2006), and NOW you want to Vote For It AGAIN.......The Left Does Not Wor...weezy.....
The problem is the Idiot Committee Chairmen in Congress and the Senate on Banking, Dodd, Dem,
Housing, Dodd, Dem
Finance, Frank, Dem
Ways & Means, Wrangle, Dem
Oversight, Waxman, Dem
These are the ones who have let the people dow, while accepting Millions in contributions to their campaign funds from the likes of those Companies we just bailed out.
Also, these same Politicans will be assiting Paulson in distributing those Bailout Funds to these same Companies ..........
Where is the Responsibility?????? The Dems........with some by Bush
One final note....During the economic glory of the Clinton era, the Republicans
controlled the Congress.......At the beginning of this decline per the Former FED Chairman.....the Dem's Controlled Congress.........
Pelosi, in all her glory of showing she had more power than Bush, did nothing to put controls in place, nor did she allow Bills to be voted on that would have put controlls in place. In case you did not know, the Speaker of the House, decides what Bills will be introduced to be voted on.......McCain did not stand a chance in his trying to push his through........
This is YOUR Government at work........YOU voted for it Last Time (2006), and NOW you want to Vote For It AGAIN.......The Left Does Not Work....
Clinton backed out of Tax Cuts after he was elected and Obama WILL BACK OUT also.......In Debate #2, he said as much....."There are some Programs I am proposing that may have to be put on hold"
TAX CUTS............
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raves +2 Oct 15, 2008 05:43AM GMT (edited)Does anyone see a pattern of Government takeover and the steps to Socialism and Marxism???
Think about it.......Stock Market, Auto, Banking, Insurance, Housing, Jobs, Health, Education...............all taken over by the Government (for our own good and the good of the Country)......
Whats next, telling us where we can work and for how much, what schools we can go to and what majors we can take, what Doctors and Hospitals we can go to, who can rent and who can own??? -
raves +1 Oct 24, 2008 05:15PM GMT (edited)I agree with the statements of SEMPER FI and MT.......
Imagine the tax increases and the control of our lives that the Dem's will have if they take control of the House, the Senate and the Oval Office.......
They will put Lib Judges on the Supreme Court and take control of it as well.
There go our Rights, Our Guns, Our Free Speach.....
Do YOU want to be "Indentured Servitudes" of the Government????
That IS what will happen........the highest form of Dictatorship.......
SEMPER FI & MT............SEMPER FI.........
Always Faithful...to the Corps and to our Country -
raves +2 posted Oct 02, 2008 02:32AM GMT
Answered Opposed
I think it’s time to have faith in the self correcting cycles our economy goes through. I am not sad that a bunch of people who had no business buying big homes on a peanut butter budget are going to lose them. When you are low income you have to learn like some of us that until you earn it you must rent it. As for Wall Street it’s time for those knuckle heads to learn some restraint. It’s time for them to pick up their own pieces and this time without my nickel. If analyze the $700 billion dollar bailout its absurd. You can give all legal citizens in the United States 250k each instead of putting it into the Fat Heads on Wall Street. We would fix the housing market by buying homes, paying tax on the 250k, buying large ticket items and creating tons of jobs. Wall Street will do NOTHING for the little guy. Do I care if Joe CEO doesn’t get his 400 million dollar retirement doughnut? Hell NOOOOO!
Learn about Weiner Libs at WWW.DEMSHATEAMERICA.COM
Learn about Weiner Libs at WWW.DEMSHATEAMERICA.COM -
raves +1 Oct 02, 2008 03:42PM GMTThank god! Someone around here is not a villian in this story! People dont understand that when this rescue act works, that it will be praised, and people that were against it will change their mind. Everyone wants to make these CEOs pay, and it is there fate, but they dont understand that its everyones fate, and why do we deserve it. The British would not help Ireland when they went under, and were starving from the potato famine. The British said it was their fate because they screwed up. Eventually, they did get out of it and Britian was wrote down in history as the villian! I am a firm believer that this is not a bailout, this is a rescue! Everything is going into a fire sale, and by the time we get out of this the corporations will need a tax cut to get going again!
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raves posted Oct 01, 2008 07:05PM GMT
Answered Opposed
The whole lot of them are cold heartless thugs. They should all have everything taken away from them as they have taken away from others. All this mess is about GREED. This bail out will NOT be a wake up call to anyone---life will continue to go on. All the corporate GREED will go on, nothing will change. I am not in agreement with a bailout. -
raves +2
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Answered Opposed
I want this plan!!!
> idea sounds just crazy enough to possibly work, so naturally it won't be
> given serious consideration. How great is our bureaucracy!!
>
> I wish I knew how many legal Americans are here and if this were possible!!
> I am sure someone out there will explain to me how this is not possible but
> it sure sounded good to me when I first heard it.
>
> Hi Pals,
>
> I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
>
> Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve
> It Dividend.
>
> To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S.
> Citizens 18+.
>
> Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child.
> So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
>
> So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.
>
> My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
>
> Of course, it would N! OT be t ax free.
>
> So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
>
> Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
>
> That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
>
> But it means that every adult 18+ has $29...
I want this plan!!!
> idea sounds just crazy enough to possibly work, so naturally it won't be
> given serious consideration. How great is our bureaucracy!!
>
> I wish I knew how many legal Americans are here and if this were possible!!
> I am sure someone out there will explain to me how this is not possible but
> it sure sounded good to me when I first heard it.
>
> Hi Pals,
>
> I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
>
> Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve
> It Dividend.
>
> To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S.
> Citizens 18+.
>
> Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child.
> So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
>
> So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.
>
> My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
>
> Of course, it would N! OT be t ax free.
>
> So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
>
> Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
>
> That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
>
> But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
>
> A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
>
> What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
>
> Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
>
> Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
>
> Put away money for college - it'll be there
>
> Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
>
> Buy a new car - create jobs
>
> Invest in the market - capital drives growth
>
> Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
>
> Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
>
>
> Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who
> lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting
> back. And of course, for those ! serving in our Armed Forces.
>
> If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of
> trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is
> being proposed
> by one of our candidates for President.
>
>
> If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S
> Citizen 18+!
>
> As for AIG - liquidate it.
>
> Sell off its parts.
>
> Let American General go back to being American General.
>
> Sell off the real estate.
>
> Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
>
> Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
>
> Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'
>
> But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
>
> How do you spell Economic Boom?
>
> I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
>
> We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington
> DC
>
> And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5
> Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
>
> Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
>
> Kindest personal regards,
>
> Birk
>
> T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic
>
> PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it's either good for a
> laugh or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!
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