Oct 04, 2008 04:10PM GMT
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Politics - United States
DNC Steps in to Silence Berg v Obama Lawsuit. Shouldn't Obama Simply Step Up & Provide a Genuine CERTIFIED Birth Certificate?
.DNC Steps in to Silence Lawsuit Over Obama Birth Certificate.
Shouldn't Obama simply put an end to speculation and rumor by providing *genuine* CERTIFIED Birth Certificate and other relevant documents? Not a bad 'copy' posted on some far-left blog, one that has been repeatedly declared a fake by forensics specialists, but an actual hard-copy document?
Or even better simply sign a basic form provided by the State of Hawaii giving them permission to release it directly to the court!
Why is the DNC getting involved in attempts to silence a lawsuit that would allow the COURTS to decide. Again I ask... in whose America is the silencing of dissent, or honest questions, acceptable. [ed.]
Cross posted from: WND.com
DNC Steps in to Silence Lawsuit Over Obama Birth Certificate
Democrat suing his own party, says it's 'like they're in cahoots'
By Drew Zahn - October 04, 2008
The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.
As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.
Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.
Despite assertions by the Washington Post, FactChecker.org and other organizations that Obama has produced a certified Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg told WND he remains "99.99 percent sure" that the certificate is a fake and he wants a court, not a website, to determine its validity.
Earlier last week, lawyers for Obama and the DNC filed a joint motion to dismiss Berg's lawsuit. The fact that the DNC joined in the dismissal request has Berg fuming, believing his party's leaders have ignored his pleas for proof in order to favor their chosen candidate over a rank-and-file constituent.
"I think it's outrageous," Berg said. "The Democratic National Committee should be ensuring the Democratic Party and the public that they have a qualified candidate up there. To file a joint motion is like they're in cahoots.
"Since then, I have asked by way of press release that Howard Dean resign, because (the DNC members) are not fulfilling their duties," Berg said.
"The DNC has a responsibility to all Democrats in this country to make sure that all of their candidates are properly vetted and properly qualified," Berg added. "I think it's really an outrage to the 18-plus million people who voted for Obama and the people who donated more than $425 million to him under false pretenses."
Berg is frustrated, not only with his own party's leadership for allegedly not investigating Obama's background, but also with the major news outlets for failing as well.
"I should also be suing the national media and their disgrace for not properly vetting, inspecting or checking on Barack Obama.
"Look what they're doing to Governor Palin: They're opening up her closet doors, they're going through everything personal, but no one has ever gone after Obama. It doesn't make sense," Berg said. [ed. Even, literally, dumpster diving in Alaska to find something, anything!]
Obama's website counters Berg's claims with links to articles that affirm the validity of his citizenship and an image of a Hawaiian birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, born in Honolulu, Aug. 4, 1961. The webpage is part of the Obama campaign website's "Fight the Smears" section, an effort to prevent reports that Obama claims are false from disseminating as damaging rumors.
Berg acknowledges that as long as his lawsuit remains outstanding, the public will talk, and he told WND he wants Obama to quickly prove him wrong or the court to quickly prove him right.
"I've been on about 50 radio shows around the country," Berg said, "and on every one I've put out a challenge: Barack Obama, if I'm wrong, just come forth with certified copies of these documents and I'll close down the case."
Berg told WND, "I've had 19 million hits on my website. …Those people talk to other people, now we're up to 20, 30, 40 million people who are aware of this controversy, and it's going to drastically affect the entire election."
When asked what he would do if the DNC succeeded in getting his case dismissed, Berg said he would "immediately file an appeal to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, and if we don't get a fair ruling there, immediately to the U.S. Supreme Court."
"We're dealing with the U.S. Constitution and it must be followed," Berg explained. "I want the Constitution enforced; that's my main reason for doing this.
"The real outrage is that there's nothing in our system that provides that a candidate must provide that his qualifications are true and correct before he or she runs, and that safeguard should be put into our system by law," Berg said.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933
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raves +1 Oct 07, 2008 06:06AM GMT>> And the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania (the group that runs factcheck.org) never gave any money to Ayers
You're kidding, right? How about $160 million?
Stop sucking on the agitprop teat and do some honest research. Demeaning others for citing FOX for sources is damn hypocritical when you refuse to look beyond The TeamObama Talking Points. -
raves Oct 07, 2008 03:52PM GMTDid you bother to watch more than the first 30 seconds of the second video before you made your factless comment? From Obama's own mouth he chaired the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, HELLO, with a 50 million dollar grant that Ayers recieved from the Annenberg Foundation...Your reply is so lacking in fact that the only reply you deserve is this.
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raves +2 Oct 08, 2008 01:02AM GMTAnd 0bama claims he doesn't know Ayers that well, and Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Maybe Ayers saw 0bama mowing his lawn and thought he was doing such a good job, he could handle dispersing a $50 million. That is beyond believability and any reasonable explanation. Just a neighbor, my arse!
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raves +1 Oct 08, 2008 02:44PM GMTFact is Obama is a Liar and a racist if people vote him in don't be surprised when he lies and dosen't deliver what he has promised, his whole campaign has been filled with empty rethoric he is just another factless, inexperienced, bag of wind politician that will say anything to win then renege once elected because of circumsances beyond his control or some other lame excuse.
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raves +6 posted Oct 05, 2008 03:28PM GMT
Answered YES. He could easily give permission to the State of Hawaii to release his certified birth certificate.
It looks a lot like he has something to hide by trying to stop the lawsuit and he should have to show his citizenship if he truly is a US citizen... -
raves +7 posted Oct 05, 2008 03:12PM GMT
Answered None of the above
Why should Obama be excused from what all of the rest of us have to prove ever time we apply for employment. In my profession to attain a license I have to provide a notorized copy of my birth certificate. To get o TWIC (Transportation Workrs Identity Card (of which I also have to have) you must present a certified copy of your birth certificate. To get a Merchant Marinr Document (MMD),of which I also have to have, I have to show a certified cpoy of, you guessed it , my birth certificate. So why should Obama or any other person for that matter not have to do the same. This goes to the policy of the democratic party, Do as I say not do as I do. -
raves +4 Oct 06, 2008 05:54AM GMTThank you, Ruel! Everytime we apply for any kind of job, we have to provide a true and correct copy of our birth certificate. We are not applying for a job that will provide security to the entire country.... even if you are applying at McDonalds, you have to give your BC.
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raves +1 Oct 07, 2008 05:02AM GMT (edited)And he would've had to provide 'something' to get a passport. Did he provide a valid or modified document?
Remember that little incident with passport records earlier this year? Someone connected to his camp was involved. SO were they snooping as reported or something else? Changing records he had previously submitted... or...possibly photographing records he had previously submitted?
[also... curiouser and curiouser... the so-called photographs taken by factcheck.org were taken, quickly and poorly, in the same narrow time period (March 12-14) as the 'passport record break-in... Watergate anyone?]
http://web.israelinsider.com/...
Any *thinking*, rational human has to wonder... Punch drunk ones? Not so much! -
raves Oct 07, 2008 05:09AM GMTYes, when the records of their passports where broken into and they fired a person but nothing more was ever said about it. Had to get the real docs out before they were put up for all to see. I will never trust a Democrat again, and sad to say, that includes Hillary. I just cannot open that trust up again. If Obama wins, I want someone to explain to me how to tell children that trust us as the adults how this happened to their world that their freedom has been taken away from them... how they will not be allowed to be children....how we let them down. I know that I will point out to all the children... I will go to work at the schools just so that I can tell them who voted for Obama and I can point out to the sad children who changed their worlds.
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raves +7 posted Oct 05, 2008 02:36PM GMT
Answered YES. He could easily give permission to the State of Hawaii to release his certified birth certificate.
For the sake of argument, let's say that BHO becomes president. It is then found that The Sainted One is not a natural born citizen. Would that automaticly force BHO to step down? Would he fight it because the "people voted". And what would thoes same said people do? What would Sen Joe say or do? Makes a person, or should make a person, wonder, no matter the political stripe. -
raves +3 Oct 05, 2008 04:37PM GMTI understand what should happen, but what will happen? And how much of a panic crisis will we have? How much of it will be in the streets? What effect will any of this have on world markets? On democracies around the world. Do not think it will be quite as simple as one steps down and the other takes over.
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raves +7 posted Oct 05, 2008 01:40PM GMT
Answered YES. He could easily give permission to the State of Hawaii to release his certified birth certificate.
This smells to high heaven. Does he think he's above everyone else who has to show documents for one reason or another? OOPS, he does think that----- he's Barack Obama!! -
raves +7 posted Oct 05, 2008 11:26AM GMT
Answered Yes. [because... ?]
I had to have one when my daughter began school and the one the hospital gave us was not exceptable they wanted a notarized copy from the state she was born in and this was in the '80s. If I had to have one for my child to go to kindergarten, why doesn't Obama have to present one to run for POTUS? -
raves +3 Oct 06, 2008 05:58AM GMTAnother very good point... Kindergartner's have to have a true and correct copy of their BC just to attend school, whether public or private.... yet the potential POTUS does not. WTF?????? He is already living above the law... what does this say about what his administration would be like?
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raves +2

Answered YES. He could easily give permission to the State of Hawaii to release his certified birth certificate.
WHAT is he hiding? WHY not cooperate? WHEN did this country dispense with our citizenship requirements for presidential nominees?.. and WHO the hell do they think they are to stop a fact finding effort to prove or disprove Obama's citizenship?God help us.