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Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama? Celebrities Pick Their Choice - Who would you rather elect?
Ross "The Intern" Matthews interviews the celebs on which Democrat they would elect in the Democratic Primary. Check out the video for what they said and then vote now for who you'd elect!John McCain or Barack Obama?
John McCain or Hillary Clinton?
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raves +3 Jul 17, 2008 01:23PM GMT (edited)
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raves Aug 24, 2008 11:24PM GMTAnne....
You are absolutely correct but............................
MoveOn and the Democratic Party Officials wanted Obama as their Nominee long before the Iowa Caucus's. That's why the nomination process with the Super Delegates was "Stacked" heavy against Hillary from the beginning.
Why do you think for the very first time ever, at least in my lifetime of 60 years, so many Democratic Party Officials were constantly screaming for Hillary to shut her Primary Campaign down and concede the Nomination to Obama?
This of course was helped along by the Far Left Liberal "Obama News Network" also known as "MSNBC" with Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman attacking and making derogatory statements nightly about Hillary Clinton.
Everybody in the Nation should have picked up on this totally disgraceful conduct by the Democratic Party Officials and Super Delegates when for the very first time history a Democratic Primary candidate, Hillary, only got "FAIR" treatment from 1 News Network and that network was FOX News.
They were the only news network that gave Hillary a "Fair Shake" and that's why now they are the only News network I will watch.
Yes I know they are conservative for the most part but they do not slant their news to be so "BLANTANTLY" bias against a Candidat...Anne....
You are absolutely correct but............................
MoveOn and the Democratic Party Officials wanted Obama as their Nominee long before the Iowa Caucus's. That's why the nomination process with the Super Delegates was "Stacked" heavy against Hillary from the beginning.
Why do you think for the very first time ever, at least in my lifetime of 60 years, so many Democratic Party Officials were constantly screaming for Hillary to shut her Primary Campaign down and concede the Nomination to Obama?
This of course was helped along by the Far Left Liberal "Obama News Network" also known as "MSNBC" with Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman attacking and making derogatory statements nightly about Hillary Clinton.
Everybody in the Nation should have picked up on this totally disgraceful conduct by the Democratic Party Officials and Super Delegates when for the very first time history a Democratic Primary candidate, Hillary, only got "FAIR" treatment from 1 News Network and that network was FOX News.
They were the only news network that gave Hillary a "Fair Shake" and that's why now they are the only News network I will watch.
Yes I know they are conservative for the most part but they do not slant their news to be so "BLANTANTLY" bias against a Candidate as for my 8 year old neice to say one night to me early in the Primary Campaign when I was watching MSNBC's Chris Matthews.........
"Uncle Rob why do they hate Hillary Clinton so much, is it because she's a girl"?
This mind you coming from an 8 year old little girl that likes to sit with her uncle (me) and watch the news at night whenever she's visiting. It floored me and I had to take a little time to answer her.
If an 8 year old can pick up on the bias against Hillary then adults should have.
If there ever was discrimination in any campaign then it was this one and it was against the Woman running for the nomination NOT the Blackman that was also running and to think that this discrimination was coming from their own Party Officials not the Opposition party, as well as certain Press and Network News Media.....That's why for me it's McCain all the way now.
By the way my little neice really likes McCain, she said to me one night "he really looks like he'd be a nice person".....
You never do know what's going to come out of the mouths of kids, but sometimes it's a lot smarter then what comes out of the mouths of adults!(less) -
raves Sep 23, 2008 04:19AM GMTYes, it is also not a coincidence that Obama's acceptance speech "just happened" to coincide with the anniversary of MLK's I Have a Dream speech, even though the date was chosen months in advance. Why? They knew they wanted to be able to say they had the first AA nominee...and bolster that momentous occasion with an appropos connection to MLK...so it was always going to be Obama from the beginning and they all cheated and screwed Hillary to ensure it.
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raves -1 Sep 24, 2008 07:23PM GMTI don't know why all those Muslims and blacks that feel America is so bad don't leave and live in another country...I wish they would all leave our country...it would be so much better if all the extreme radical black people would leave this wonderful country of ours!! We do not need them here...........they are useless, worthless and a great danger to America!
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raves +1 Aug 23, 2008 10:06PM GMTIf he truly cared about the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, he would have included her in the VP spot. Biden would be better as SEC OF STATE.
18,000,000 people voted Hillary; she must have done something RIGHT!
We better win in November, otherwise the Dems are a lamer duck than the Bush people are right now! -
raves Aug 24, 2008 01:45AM GMTHillary got underhanded and turned alot of people away from her. I'm a strong woman and hoped to see a strong woman president. She failed me when she started playing dirty.
I was very disappointed in the Clinton team, and I'm sorry that she couldn't have been more upstanding. I'm glad she didn't get the nomination at this point. Unfortunately, she isn't fighting very strongly for the dems, which just shows her bad attitude. It shouldn't have been about winning, it should've been about helping our nation. -
raves +8 -1 posted Jun 24, 2008 01:15AM GMT (edited)
Answered Hillary Clinton gets my vote!
The DNC believes that Clinton supporters have no alternative but to toe the party line. The DNC tries to scare voters (especially women) into believeing that we will lose valuable rights if a republican gets into office!!
BULLSH*T!!! THIS IS AN EMPTY THREAT!
Don't let this, or any other party try to intimidate you!!!
We have had 8 yrs of republican rule (thanks to the last two crappy canidates the DNC has offered) and rights have not eroded to a misreable level!!
Become an Independent and vote with strenght not fear!
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raves +12 Jun 25, 2008 02:22AM GMT

A beautiful tribute to Hillary Clinton from Maya Angelou.
Are you surprised by this eloquent endorsement from such an outspoken and highly regarded American? (For those that don't know... Dr. Maya Angelou is an African-American poet who is one of the most influential and respected literary voices of the modern age. She is also an educator, historian, best-selling author, actress, playwright, civil-rights activist, producer and director.)
As first published in the Observer Unlimited
http://observer.guardian.co.u...
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You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may tread me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.
This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits' end, but she has always risen, always risen, don't forget she has always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her friends.
Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on her.
There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you're born a girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But to become a woman is a serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she occupie...
A beautiful tribute to Hillary Clinton from Maya Angelou.
Are you surprised by this eloquent endorsement from such an outspoken and highly regarded American? (For those that don't know... Dr. Maya Angelou is an African-American poet who is one of the most influential and respected literary voices of the modern age. She is also an educator, historian, best-selling author, actress, playwright, civil-rights activist, producer and director.)
As first published in the Observer Unlimited
http://observer.guardian.co.u...
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You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may tread me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.
This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits' end, but she has always risen, always risen, don't forget she has always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her friends.
Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on her.
There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you're born a girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But to become a woman is a serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she occupies. Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country. Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to be what it can become.
She declares she wants to see more smiles in the family, more courtesies between men and women, more honesty in the marketplace. She is the prayer of every woman and man who longs for fair play, healthy families, good schools, and a balanced economy.
She means to rise.
Don't give up on Hillary. In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country the wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without sanctimonious piety and without crippling fear.
Rise, Hillary.
Rise.
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raves +4 Jul 14, 2008 09:03PM GMT (edited)

Hillary and Obama
Hillary Urges Major Donors To Throw Weight Behind Obama
On Private Conference Call, Hillary Urges Major Donors To Throw Weight Behind Obama
By Greg Sargent - June 19, 2008, 6:42PM
On a private conference call moments ago, Hillary urged her top fundraisers in no uncertain terms to throw their weight behind Barack Obama, and directly asked them in surprisingly candid terms to give or raise money to help her pay off her campaign's debt.
At the same time, in a move that took some participants on the call by surprise, she also clarified that she was not asking their help in paying off her personal loans to the campaign.
Interestingly, Hillary also suggested that she would soon be making public statements about the media coverage of the campaign, as well as the ways "women were discussed," saying that she would "be doing more on that as we go forward."
"I am going to do everything I can to ensure victory for Senator Obama," Hillary told her fundraisers on the call. "I am asking each of you to do the same. I really believe we've got to see a Democrat sworn into the White House this January."
The call, which I was able to listen to in its entirety, left little doubt that Hillary was unequivocally signaling to her top financial supporters -- who are ...
Hillary and Obama
Hillary Urges Major Donors To Throw Weight Behind Obama
On Private Conference Call, Hillary Urges Major Donors To Throw Weight Behind Obama
By Greg Sargent - June 19, 2008, 6:42PM
On a private conference call moments ago, Hillary urged her top fundraisers in no uncertain terms to throw their weight behind Barack Obama, and directly asked them in surprisingly candid terms to give or raise money to help her pay off her campaign's debt.
At the same time, in a move that took some participants on the call by surprise, she also clarified that she was not asking their help in paying off her personal loans to the campaign.
Interestingly, Hillary also suggested that she would soon be making public statements about the media coverage of the campaign, as well as the ways "women were discussed," saying that she would "be doing more on that as we go forward."
"I am going to do everything I can to ensure victory for Senator Obama," Hillary told her fundraisers on the call. "I am asking each of you to do the same. I really believe we've got to see a Democrat sworn into the White House this January."
The call, which I was able to listen to in its entirety, left little doubt that Hillary was unequivocally signaling to her top financial supporters -- who are being actively courted by Obama -- that the time had come for them to do their part in getting him elected President.
Hillary added that "the stakes are too high" to do anything but "do all we can to elect Barack Obama President," in order to "turn the economy around" and "protect a woman's right too choose."
On the topic of her debts, Hillary said: "Many of you also know that my campaign is facing debt. That happens when you're outspent...I have also loaned money to the campaign which I consider an investment...I'm not expecting anybody to help pay that back."
"But I am hoping to get your help in our efforts to pay off our vendors," she continued, adding that "any amount you can give or help raise would go a long way" towards doing that.
Hillary then suggested that she'd be making public statements soon about the media's treatment of her candidacy.
Speaking of the campaign, Hillary noted that "there were a lot of other aspects to it that people are asking about. A lot of real concerns about some of the ways we were portrayed in the media and the way women were discussed."
"I will be doing more on that as we go forward," Hillary said.(less) -
raves +6 -1 Jun 27, 2008 06:10AM GMTFuhrerprinzip
June 26th, 2008 J Cifre, J.D. Posted in Political Analysis
Lately, there has been a small movement of Hillary Clinton devotees who are now insisting that all of her supporters should now back Barack Hussein Obama for President of the United States, some of them are headed by none other than our late (Barack Hating) contributor Lin Farley. Her motivation, to all appearances, stems from the fact that Mrs. Clinton, after being robbed out of receiving the nomination by a pack of rabid Racialist and Liberal sexists, is now endorsing Mr. Obama, and will soon be actively campaigning with him. Many of these new apologists claim that it is simply a matter of “loyalty” to Hillary Clinton which motivates them so. The problem with this approach is that it presupposes the propriety of ‘honoring’ a politician, even if doing so goes directly against ones’ morals, even without the slight consideration of THEIR (the politicians) motivations. First, let’s look closely at where this dubious concept of ‘political fealty’ really comes from and then we will be able to tackle it’s purport.
http://savagepolitics.com/?p=812
http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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raves +4 Jul 05, 2008 12:08AM GMT (edited)http://www.sodahead.com/quest... .come to this site this is where every one is come to ...John mccain or Barack Obama
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raves +2 Jul 14, 2008 09:06PM GMTUnder Obama's plan, proceeds from the sale of the primary residence will be exempt from capital gains tax. Qualified retirement plans such as (401)k's and IRA's will be exempt from capital gains tax. The first million dollars or so (I believe it's $2-million but I don't have the figures in front of me) will be exempt from inheritance tax, as will spouse-to-spouse inheritance. And anyone earning under $227,000/year will see their income tax bill go down.
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Special Report Election 2008: The candidates and your money
What they'll do to your tax bill
McCain and Obama want to change the bottom-line effects of the tax code. Here's a dollars-and-cents breakdown of what their plans could mean for you.
By Jeanne Sahadi, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Last Updated: June 11, 2008: 3:59 PM EDT
BREAKING DOWN THE NUMBERS
Here's how the average tax bill could change in 2009 if either John McCain's or Barack Obama's tax proposals were fully in place.
MCCAIN OBAMA
Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
$603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
$227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
$161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
$112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
$66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
$38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
$...Under Obama's plan, proceeds from the sale of the primary residence will be exempt from capital gains tax. Qualified retirement plans such as (401)k's and IRA's will be exempt from capital gains tax. The first million dollars or so (I believe it's $2-million but I don't have the figures in front of me) will be exempt from inheritance tax, as will spouse-to-spouse inheritance. And anyone earning under $227,000/year will see their income tax bill go down.
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Special Report Election 2008: The candidates and your money
What they'll do to your tax bill
McCain and Obama want to change the bottom-line effects of the tax code. Here's a dollars-and-cents breakdown of what their plans could mean for you.
By Jeanne Sahadi, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Last Updated: June 11, 2008: 3:59 PM EDT
BREAKING DOWN THE NUMBERS
Here's how the average tax bill could change in 2009 if either John McCain's or Barack Obama's tax proposals were fully in place.
MCCAIN OBAMA
Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
$603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
$227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
$161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
$112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
$66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
$38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
$19K-$38K -$113 -$892
Under $19K -$19 -$567
Source:The Tax Policy Center
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- John McCain and Barack Obama have starkly different philosophies about tax policy - how to raise the revenue needed to support government programs, spur growth and ensure economic fairness.
But voters really want to know one thing: How would the presidential candidates' views trickle down to their tax bills? A report released Wednesday by a nonpartisan policy group in Washington, D.C., takes a big first step toward answering that question.
According to the Tax Policy Center's findings, the common assumptions most people make about the plans of McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, and Obama, the Democrats' pick, are not wildly off-base.
McCain: The average taxpayer in every income group would see a lower t



Answered Undecided. (Please Comment)
I don't know if I like either right now. I've been known to vote across party lines, but this time around I want to make sure I'm voting for the RIGHT person. I'm not like some people that vote emotionally and fasley believe that ONE person or PARTY can change things.It TAKES "We the People" to change things for the BETTER. Not a lying, shifty eyed politician. Whether they are DEM or REP.
Eric