Oct 08, 2008 12:45PM GMT
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Religion - Christianity
Is the bible really a good source (or guide) for morality?
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I hear people claim that the bible is a guide to morality, but what in the bible is really something we didn't already know?
Everybody knows that killing and stealing are wrong for instance. Do Christians really need the bible to tell them this?
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raves posted Oct 13, 2008 09:33PM GMT
Answered (I belong to another religion (please specify)) Yes, and this is why:
Well, the ten commandments, if you ignore the ones about "God", are quite good rules to live by.
And Jesus also taught some wonderful things: tolerance, peace, acceptance, love.... hell, Jesus was a freakin' hippy xD
Of course, most Christians no longer follow the teachings of Christ. Go figure, right? -
raves posted Oct 11, 2008 07:35PM GMT
Answered (I'm non-religious) No, and this is why:
i have no religion and im really glad about it!!! but i belive in a higher power (god)..but i dont belive in god like in the bible...the bible was writen BY HUMANS and NOT BY GOD... the most of it is bullshit writen by "religiuos" humans wich r trying to manipulating the humans through the faith of the unsuspecting ( most good faithfull) humans for their own intentions (for example the church!!) to get more power and so they can rule the religiusos humans for ur own intention and get more and more power...who can tell what is true and what isnt true in the bible?? the bible is so damn old and was so often new translated (for ur own opinion) and so often changed...i neednt a book for being a good human and for having a good morality...i neednt a bible to know whats wrong and whats not...every person has in generell from the beginning of her birth a (own) morality and i dont think that they r reading the bible before her birth..lol.. -
raves posted Oct 09, 2008 09:25PM GMT
Answered (I'm non-religious) No, and this is why:
The Bible is ultimately not a good source for morality. In the light of the Christian Bible, there are a few quite strict guidelines (ten commandments) as to what it takes to be a person who gets to go to Heaven (pre-Christ). In the age that these were implemented, the new rules were intended to bring order to civilization. C.S. Lewis wrote in his pro-Christian book that morals are born within us, but they were given to us by God... I'm not sure where he came up with that one. Clearly we can see through history that morals were not born within us from the beginning.
There are two theories that are bouncing around with me right now. The first is that we are passing the moral traditions down from generation to generation through living example. This is the most likely to be true. In which case, most of us wouldn't need books like the Christian Bible to give us clues on how to be a good and loving person. The second is that we are born with it. We are born with it through spiritual inheritance. This one is a little out there by todays standards, but it may explain a lot... karma has something to do with this.
I happen to have a good reason why we should not look to the Christian Bible for answers. It is becoming more and more apparent to me that humans are (and have been) ...The Bible is ultimately not a good source for morality. In the light of the Christian Bible, there are a few quite strict guidelines (ten commandments) as to what it takes to be a person who gets to go to Heaven (pre-Christ). In the age that these were implemented, the new rules were intended to bring order to civilization. C.S. Lewis wrote in his pro-Christian book that morals are born within us, but they were given to us by God... I'm not sure where he came up with that one. Clearly we can see through history that morals were not born within us from the beginning.
There are two theories that are bouncing around with me right now. The first is that we are passing the moral traditions down from generation to generation through living example. This is the most likely to be true. In which case, most of us wouldn't need books like the Christian Bible to give us clues on how to be a good and loving person. The second is that we are born with it. We are born with it through spiritual inheritance. This one is a little out there by todays standards, but it may explain a lot... karma has something to do with this.
I happen to have a good reason why we should not look to the Christian Bible for answers. It is becoming more and more apparent to me that humans are (and have been) using the Christian Bible and the Christian God to justify immoral and inhumane acts. Christians are taking the text of the Bible and with the belief that it is the word of God, they are justifying warfare, greed, and unfairness through creating boundaries in the real world because of boundaries in the fantasy world (of the Bible). Through the creation of boundaries, we create opposites. We create differences and ignore the similarities and the things that make us all connected. We create enemies when we follow the Christian God because we subscribe to the false history that has been written for us all to believe. A dark history indeed. Can you imagine what the world would be like if we weren't tethered to religion? Spirituality is not religion. And religious people are more often than not, very selfish and ignorant of true spirituality. Perhaps our sick society has something to do with this. I can go on... but I think I already answered the question.
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raves +1 posted Oct 09, 2008 09:21PM GMT
Answered (I'm non-religious) No, and this is why:
Morals don't come from a book, they come from human interactions and what you're taught by your parents.
Oh, and the thought in the back of your head that tells you when you're being a dick. It's called a "conscience" not "God." -
raves +1 Oct 10, 2008 05:44AM GMTThat's interesting. Would you weigh in on my poll about the conscience?
http://www.sodahead.com/quest... -
raves Oct 10, 2008 12:50PM GMTMorals are written in a book, just like any book. However like all things written, they are handed down from time to time. Parents, and other leaders teach morals, codes of conducts, but they had to be taught. Yeah I know people can be self-taught, but some of the education comes from learning from elders or the monkey see, monkey do learning. So in retrospect, learning anything is a generation after generation process.
However the Bible provides morals or Commandments for anyone or Christians primarily to follow as life guidelines. There are other ways in the Bible to learn of morals, that are not Commandments. So do we need the Bible or a book to learn morals, no not really. Because as we get older, we learn how to use knowledge to process morals most effectively as we wish. -
raves +1 Oct 10, 2008 07:47PM GMTI'm Atheist, I never actually read the bible before I became an Atheist (when I was about 15) but I knew of the commandments. I didn't learn my morals from the book, and I still don't think you need a book to learn those morals. Aesop's Fables teach morals, why doesn't anyone follow his stories as a religion?
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raves posted Oct 09, 2008 08:13PM GMT
Answered (I'm Christian) No, and this is why:
You're right. I don't need a Bible to tell me anything, because I know what I need to know. I can quote the bible now and then, here's something you might like:...
2 Timothy 1:7 says: "Live dangerously for God has NOT given you a heart of fear and timidity, but a heart of self-disipline, power, and love!" (or something like that)
the bible, as I see it, is meant to be a reference to knowledge of the history of the religion, not a moral survival guide. In today's world, the bible almost seems irrelevant, because of today's technologies and communication, we already know what we need to know. -
raves posted Oct 09, 2008 11:19AM GMT
Answered (I'm Christian) Yes, and this is why:
Look the ENTIRE "Holy Bible" is a perverterd distortion of the Spirituality of the ancient Kemetic civilization. The story of Jesus is the story of Horus. (check it out) All structured religion in my opinion is false because it all comes from the spirituality of the original man. everything else is a "version" The word "religion" comes from the latin word "religous" which means "to tie back in to or reconnect. The Caucasion man needed to, since all people are the offspring of Meritia, re-connect with the spirituality of the ancients. So they took the storys and twisted them to benifit themselves. Then they had a totla of 5 crusades in which they killed any and everyone who would not convert. (or @least tried to) The temple is within, "GOD" is in you. -
raves posted Oct 09, 2008 06:55AM GMT
Answered (I'm Christian) Yes, and this is why:
It is your total guide....if you believe in the God that inspired people to write it through his holy spirit. If God puts a feeling on you that you want to hear more about what he has to say,then you will read the bible and be shocked how much more you will get out of it then those two things.Dont underestimate something until you have checked it out for yourself! -
raves posted Oct 09, 2008 06:50AM GMT
Answered (I'm Christian) Yes, and this is why:
In case you haven't noticed the mess that this world is in! Man created us to for himself and He also gave us a gu ide to go by. Next, you need to have a relationship with Him first to recieve any kind of protection and blessing. This world is on the wrong track, and we are all going to helll in a hand-basket if we don't get right with HIm. So yes God created man and women respectfully for one another, but to have sex respectfully for each other..and if don't have this , you will screw up, not only yourself, but not having respect for one another could damage trust and respect for one another. Lastly, you need to be married to have a blessed relationship for life!! -
raves posted Oct 09, 2008 06:01AM GMT
Answered (I'm Christian) No, and this is why:
I cannot name a more popular source for which hate and murder have been sprouted than this book, which was written 30 years after the crucifixon. It should not be taken literally, as most of its readers do. It is full of suggestions, and I have always used them as method for thought provocation, not as some kind of objective manual for life. I wish that others used it this way as well. -
raves Oct 10, 2008 06:17AM GMTThats where Faith comes in. Faith is believing without ever having actually seen. A gut feeling. something inside you. A nagging feeling in your blood that a select group of men along with Gods own son in the form of a man, wrote the exact words God told them to write so people like us would know whats up today and whats coming!
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raves +1 posted Oct 09, 2008 05:22AM GMT
Answered (I'm Christian) Yes, and this is why:
... but I have questions, as I'm sure all Christians do.
I wonder about the Crusades and the morality of them. And I believe most gays are born gay... and that somewhere down the line transcriptions of verses were misconstrued. -
raves Oct 09, 2008 07:22AM GMThumans are imperfect. we have a natural desire to sin. It is in our Blood. All sin is equal in Gods eyes. Whether im gay or drop 5 f-bombs in a day,or am jealous of someones car.It is the spirit God puts in you to try and change your desires or wrong thinking that Christ loves. The Crusades were fought for reasons only God knows. But if you think, That war has never ended!! Christians...Muslims. Sound familiar? I think these two ideologies will battle until the end. Hope i helped a little.
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Answered (I belong to another religion (please specify)) No, and this is why:
There's good and bad, but unfortunately too many people concentrate on the bad. While it does teach some good common sense stuff, it's sort of like the carrot and the stick...except beating the donkey with the stick to make it eat the carrot.