Oct 10, 2008 02:06PM GMTOctober 10, 2008 14:06:03
Posted by Warren

Question Stats

10 answers
12 comments
raves +4  
Share This Question

Is Bush a Marxist?

Latin leftists gloating over 'Comrade' Bush's bailout
Tyler Bridges | McClatchy Newspapers
last updated: October 07, 2008 07:52:58 PM

http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2003/04/10/bank/

CARACAS, Venezuela — They don't call him President Bush in Venezuela anymore.

Now he's known as "Comrade."

With the Bush administration's Treasury Department resorting to government bailout after government bailout to keep the U.S. economy afloat, leftist governments and their political allies in Latin America are having a field day, gloating one day and taunting Bush the next for adopting the types of interventionist government policies that he's long condemned.

"We were just talking about that this morning on the floor," said Congressman Edwin Castro, who heads the leftist Sandinista congressional bloc in Nicaragua. "We think the Bush administration should follow the same policies that they and the International Monetary Fund have always told us to follow when we have economic problems — a structural adjustment that requires cutting government spending and reducing the role of government.

"One of our economists was telling us that Bush has just implemented communism for the rich," Castro said.

No one in Latin America has been making more hay of Bush's turnabout than Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, a self-proclaimed socialist who is the U.S.'s biggest headache in the region.

"If the Venezuelan government, for example, approves a law to protect consumers, they say, 'Take notice, Chavez is a tyrant!'" Chavez said in one of his recent weekly television shows.

"Or they say, 'Chavez is regulating prices. He is violating the laws of the marketplace.' How many times have they criticized me for nationalizing the phone company? They say, 'The state shouldn't get involved in that.' But now they don't criticize Bush for having nationalize . . . the biggest banks in the world. Comrade Bush, how are you?"

The audience laughed and Chavez continued.

"Comrade Bush is heading toward socialism."

That certainly isn't the view of the Bush administration, which sees the government plan to buy toxic mortgages and the takeover of a major insurance company as well as two huge mortgage lenders as distasteful but necessary temporary measures to right the listing U.S. economy and prevent a worldwide depression.

Mark Weisbrodt, director of the leftist Washington-based Center for Economic and Policy Research, advises numerous Latin American governments.

He called the recent Bush administration policies ironic.

"The biggest nationalization in the world was of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The biggest nationalization of an insurer was AIG. People are saying that Bush is privatizing risk and socializing losses," Weisbrodt said.

John Ross, who has begun providing advice to the Chavez government, along with his boss, former London Mayor "Red" Ken Livingstone, criticized the U.S. president and his conservative political allies.

"They have abandoned every policy that they've advocated that other governments should follow over the past 20 years," Ross said by telephone from London. "And they've adopted the measures that they've condemned other governments for taking.

"This is not the end of capitalism. But it is the end of Reaganism and Thatcherism," he added.

British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, a conservative, was a close ally of President Reagan in the 1980s.

In Peru, Congresswoman Nancy Obregon said she thought Bush's actions were sounding the death knell for capitalism.

"He's driving it into the ground," said Obregon, a socialist. "He's imitating Evo Morales."

Morales is the socialist president of Bolivia who has nationalized a half dozen foreign companies.

But Bolivia's ambassador in Venezuela, Jorge Alvarado, took issue with Obregon's comparison.

"Bush is guilty of a double-standard, but it would be an exaggeration to say he's imitating Evo," said Alvarado. "He'd have to be re-born to imitate Evo!"

Manuel Sutherland, a senior official in the Caracas-based Latin American Association of Marxist Economists, said that Bush has become a fellow traveler.

But Sutherland said he wasn't about to let Bush join his group.

"He carries out nationalizations to save capitalism," Sutherland said. "We want to sink it."
Add Image Add Video
resize
Loading Loading...
Top Comment
raves +2   by 270machine

Answered Probably more like a fascist.

Bush has created a form of government ideology that borrows from both socialism "and" fascism. But what shall we call it? Sociofasc? No, sounds scary.... wait!... how about " american conservatism"?..... yessss!
view thread
Sort By: Raves | Date Comments
  • raves +1   [-] by NamelessGenXer

    Answered Probably more like a fascist.

    The GOP Platform at a Glance: The Fourteen Tenets of Fascism

    1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
    2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
    3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
    4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
    5. Rampant sexism
    6. A controlled mass media
    7. Obsession with national security
    8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
    9. Power of corporations protected
    10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
    12. Obsession with crime and punishment
    13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
    14. Fraudulent elections

    SOUND FAMILIAR? http://www.oldamericancentury...
  • raves +1   [-] by crsone

    Answered Yes. Bankers of the World Unite!

    It's almost amusing to see that they're even think of "buying equity interest" -- you know what that is, of course? It's called nationalizing everywhere else. Example -- when Sweden's banks were in trouble a while back, they simply nationalized them, got everything straightened out, and sold them back to the private sector. I think they might even have made a profit for the citizens on the deal.
  • raves +1   [-] by PigsOnSoma

    Answered Probably more like a fascist.

    Certainly not a Marxist - but perhaps a Stalinist.
  • raves +1   [-] by raven~Vegan/Hussein/Commie~

    Answered Probably more like a fascist.

    "Or they say, 'Chavez is regulating prices. He is violating the laws of the marketplace.' How many times have they criticized me for nationalizing the phone company? They say, 'The state shouldn't get involved in that.' But now they don't criticize Bush for having nationalize . . . the biggest banks in the world. Comrade Bush, how are you?"

    LOVE IT! LOL

    involved criticize bush nationalize banks world comrade bush love lol
  • raves     [-] by wombmeat

    Answered None of the above

    Sister Jean is correct.

    The New World Order. Here are some very interesting facts about 9/11. Everyone is allowed their opinion, but your opinion depends on how much research one does to satisfy their questions.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    "In 2001, the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon are attacked, killing thousands of people. The attacks were allegedly carried out by al-Qaeda terrorists primarily from Saudi Arabia, but many conspiracy theorists[who?] believe that they were carried out or supported by the U.S. government, or the Illuminati.[citation needed] The attacks have been linked to ideas about the New World Order, sometimes presented as a conspiratorial media-orchestrated plot to frighten Americans into giving up their civil liberties to a "Homeland Security"

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/...

    "A recent Reuters report (11/13/03; scroll down) quoting Labeviere's book "Corridors of Terror" points to alleged "negotiations" between Osama bin Laden and the CIA, which took place two months prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks at the American Hospital in Dubai, UAE, while bin Laden was recovering from a kidney dialysis treatment"

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/a...

    Hunter telephoned me on Feb. 19, the night before his death. He sounded...
    Sister Jean is correct.

    The New World Order. Here are some very interesting facts about 9/11. Everyone is allowed their opinion, but your opinion depends on how much research one does to satisfy their questions.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    "In 2001, the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon are attacked, killing thousands of people. The attacks were allegedly carried out by al-Qaeda terrorists primarily from Saudi Arabia, but many conspiracy theorists[who?] believe that they were carried out or supported by the U.S. government, or the Illuminati.[citation needed] The attacks have been linked to ideas about the New World Order, sometimes presented as a conspiratorial media-orchestrated plot to frighten Americans into giving up their civil liberties to a "Homeland Security"

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/...

    "A recent Reuters report (11/13/03; scroll down) quoting Labeviere's book "Corridors of Terror" points to alleged "negotiations" between Osama bin Laden and the CIA, which took place two months prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks at the American Hospital in Dubai, UAE, while bin Laden was recovering from a kidney dialysis treatment"

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/a...

    Hunter telephoned me on Feb. 19, the night before his death. He sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, particularly over the phone, he mumbled, yet when there was something he really wanted you to understand, you did. He'd been working on a story about the World Trade Center attacks and had stumbled across what he felt was hard evidence showing the towers had been brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them but by explosive charges set off in their foundations. Now he thought someone was out to stop him publishing it: "They're gonna make it look like suicide," he said. "I know how these bastards think . . ."

    http://whatreallyhappened.com...

    The foundations for the "War on Terror" lie in the ruins of the World Trade Center. The official account of events surrounding the 9/11/01 collapses is full of inconsistencies, but the mainstream media does not seek answers. This 9/14/01 CNN collapse explanation demonstrates that absurdity is unquestioned - how can quarter mile high buildings with phenomenally strong core structures be designed to fall into their footprints in the event of a disaster?
  • raves +1   [-] by UrbanHillbilly

    Answered Probably more like a fascist.

    When I say "fascist," I do not mean "Nazi." There is a world of difference between the ordinary, garden variety fascist and a Nazi. The Nazis were almost unique in their expression of evil. I do not want to imply that the Republican even come close to that. Think Mussolini, not Hitler.

    One of the hallmarks of Fascism is the total refutation of Marx.
  • raves     [-] by parigino

    Answered Undecided

    No,but I think Obama is.
  • raves +2   [-] by 270machine

    Answered Probably more like a fascist.

    Bush has created a form of government ideology that borrows from both socialism "and" fascism. But what shall we call it? Sociofasc? No, sounds scary.... wait!... how about " american conservatism"?..... yessss!
  • raves +2   [-] by Sister Jean

    Answered Undecided

    I wonder if he knows what he is???His Dad wanted a New World Order!!!! undecided ishis dad world order
  • raves     [-] Warren replied to Sister Jean
    I hate to say it, but his Dad was actually pretty OK in comparison. I think Bush 41's New World Order comment was meant to describe a future of international cooperation and respect for international law, precisely the opposite of his son's vision of a unipolar world with a unitary executive at the helm.
  • raves     [-] by kmay

    Answered None of the above

    Obama is a socialist marxist!
  • raves +2   [-] Warren replied to kmay
    The article and the question was about Bush. Is socialism good when Republicans do it?