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General School & Education
This is for an essay that I'm writing about censorship and schools banning books, mostly Harry Potter. Do you think it is right for the series to be banned from schools? Why do you think that Harry Potter is banned so often?
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Answered No
i believe that banning a book because christian parents dont like them is wrong...where is the sparation of religion and state...religion shouldnt play a role in books being banned...i have nothing at all against christians but a lot of them act like they rule everything...so if i went to a school and said it was against my religion to sit next to a black kid would they allow it...no because its wrong...i have nothing against anyone...harry potter is great...just because its about magic shouldnt mean anything...i heard that some christians had a problem with the golden compass because they say its anti christ...come on just because something is fantasy doesnt make it anti christ...kids want to believe anything is possible despite religion... -
I heard that bit about The Golden Compass too. My aunt (who is LDS) sent me an article. Apparently the author is a staunch atheist.
My opinion? Good literature is good literature, no matter what the personal beliefs of the author happen to be. CS Lewis (Chronicles of Narnia) is a Christian author. The whole series is very much based on the life of Jesus Christ. You don't see schools banning his stuff just because it's "religious", now do you?
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Answered No
Why? Unless the book is illegal is some way, I feel they should all be allowed in the schools. Offering a book to the students does not equate to an endorsement nor must it become a standard for learning or curriculum. Isn't education supposed to be the place where ideas are challenged, new modes of thought discovered, and points of view established? Just because the book is in the school does not mean we have to read it. We always have a choice to pick up the book or not. -
Answered No
It depends on the district. In clark county, even if it's PG, you must get a parent's consent. If they don't get permission, that student must go elsewhere and do work. Like the library. o.o
But... no. I don't think it should be banned. There are worse things a student sees in school than they read in a book. -
Answered No
You have a right to read the book or not, this is America; you get rights to everything. If you don't want to read a book, well then, don't read it. You don't have to ban literature because you're afraid of a fictional world influencing reality. -
Answered Yes
Because sorcery is the same as witchcraft, and witchcraft is a religion. According to the left wing wackos religion is not suppose to be in schools. But there are some schools who has a double standard. If it's about God or Jesus, then it's not allowed in schools. But if it's on witchcraft, Islamic or evolution, then it's allowed.
Yes Evolution is a religion. It's a belief that one species tranformed into another type species. There is no proof that evolution happend, but schools teach it like there is proof.
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> Witchcraft in this context isn't a religion
> Books involving religion (To Kill a Mockingbird, The Canterbury Tales, etc.) are often taught in schools
> Evolution isn't a religion, you 'right wing wackos' seem to have a big problem differentiating between religion and science >.>
"Yes Evolution is a religion. It's a belief that one species tranformed into another type species. There is no proof that evolution happend, but schools teach it like there is proof."
> Find a good definition of what evolution is, it's not one species magically transforming into another. Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... then think about your "No proof evolution happend [sic]" statement, I know wikipedia isn't the best source but if you want citations they're there for most of the points. Oh, and can you share your definition of religion?
"It takes a lot more faith to believe one species of animal can evolve to another species."
> Than it does to believe a magical invisible god did it all from the comfort of his extrauniversal home? Gimme a break...
Let's not hijack this poll with an evolution/creation debate, if you want anything clearing up I've posted in most of the evolution/creation threads, get stuck in there. -
In dictionaries, religion is defined as “any specific system of belief, worship, or conduct that prescribes certain responses to the existence (or non-existence) and character of God.” Also, “a set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices pertaining to supernatural power.”
witchcraft is the practice of supernatural powers and therefore is a religion.
Take the Wiccans for example, they worship nature and practice witchcraft.
Evolution is a religion. Evolutionist "believe" that a non-living matter can suddenly transform into something living. Therefore it is a belief that non-living matter can magically
become something alive.
So books like Harry Potter that is about witchcraft is a book on a religious belief. And that religious belief is witchcraft.
Books about evolution is also about a belief that species can transform into other species without any proof. So therefore evolution is also a religion.
So according to you dumbass left wing wackos, religion isn't suppose to be taught or read in schools. And I just showed you that religion isn't just a belief in God, but what you believe in or not believe in. -
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What I should have started this whole thing with is this:
Harry Potter is taught as fiction, everything in the book is discussed as fiction, it is not meant to be believed in any way, shape or form.
Anything related to Jesus or God would be taught as fact, anything discussed in relation to God or Jesus would be discussed as a fact, or a valid theory. God and Jesus are meant to be believed in, and would be taught about such a manner.
If this doesn't make the difference blindingly obvious to you then my hypothesis has been proven; biblical literalists cannot discern between fact and fiction.
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In dictionaries, religion is defined as “any specific system of belief, worship, or conduct that prescribes certain responses to the existence (or non-existence) and character of God.” Also, “a set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices pertaining to supernatural power.”
> Firstly, where's that definition from? It doesn't seem to be a particularly widely used one."any specific system of belief, worship, or conduct that prescribes certain responses to the existence (or non-existence) and character of God." Witchcraft in Harry Potter does nothing of the sort, and as for "a set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices pertaining to supernatural power." This would include books about superheroes, time travel, ghosts, even Skellig would count, and nobody in the right mind would call these religious.
Evolution is a religion.
> Wrong, evolution is a scientific the...--Edit--
What I should have started this whole thing with is this:
Harry Potter is taught as fiction, everything in the book is discussed as fiction, it is not meant to be believed in any way, shape or form.
Anything related to Jesus or God would be taught as fact, anything discussed in relation to God or Jesus would be discussed as a fact, or a valid theory. God and Jesus are meant to be believed in, and would be taught about such a manner.
If this doesn't make the difference blindingly obvious to you then my hypothesis has been proven; biblical literalists cannot discern between fact and fiction.
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In dictionaries, religion is defined as “any specific system of belief, worship, or conduct that prescribes certain responses to the existence (or non-existence) and character of God.” Also, “a set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices pertaining to supernatural power.”
> Firstly, where's that definition from? It doesn't seem to be a particularly widely used one."any specific system of belief, worship, or conduct that prescribes certain responses to the existence (or non-existence) and character of God." Witchcraft in Harry Potter does nothing of the sort, and as for "a set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices pertaining to supernatural power." This would include books about superheroes, time travel, ghosts, even Skellig would count, and nobody in the right mind would call these religious.
Evolution is a religion.
> Wrong, evolution is a scientific theory. Your definition of evolution is wrong as well, you're talking about abiogenesis. And needn't be anything supernatural or magical about abiogenesis, unless of course you involve God.
So books like Harry Potter that is about witchcraft is a book on a religious belief. And that religious belief is witchcraft.
>("books like Harry Potter that is" xD) It's a book involving a dodgy definition of religious belief, not a book on religious belief, in the same way that To Kill A Mockingbird and The Green Mile involve religious belief. The main distinction between Left Behind and Harry Potter is that Left Behind promotes Religion, whereas Harry Potter involves something that you would define as religion.
Books about evolution is also about a belief that species can transform into other species without any proof. So therefore evolution is also a religion.
> Incorrect again. Evolution has buckets of proof ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ) you only needed to do a quick google search. And also, there's nothing magical about (using your wording) a species transforming into another species. Microevolution can be easily observed, and macroevolution (leading to speciation) is that process given time.
So according to you dumbass left wing wackos, religion isn't suppose to be taught or read in schools. And I just showed you that religion isn't just a belief in God, but what you believe in or not believe in.
> Come on now, I was being civil with you. Going by your thinking believing that the sun will come up tomorrow is a religion. Believing that you are Napoleon is a religion. Believing that you will have chips with tea tonight is a religion. Religion isn't being taught or read in school, it might be mentioned in books (To Kill a Mockingbird or The Green Mile), or books might be read that fulfil the rather shaky second half of your definition, but to claim that religion is being taught is paranoid. And I also think it incredibly funny that you can (incorrectly) guess my political affiliation from my opinion on banning a children's book. I'll have you know that I am neither left nor right wing, thank you very much.
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so you believe wicca to be bad...and evolution has to do with science...if someone has scientific evidence of people being close to primates why not teach it...christians should not get the right to rule other people's kids...trust me i know...i was forced into the religion, by my grandmother, to which i have strayed from...yet i still believe in god and angels...personally i believe it takes more faith to believe that god is real and the bible was really written on history then it does to believe we have evolved...does that make me bad?...no...it just makes me a person who follows their own mind and heart...and makes their own logic out of things...Wicca means: witchcraft, esp. benevolent, nature-oriented practices derived from pre-Christian religions...witchcraft: Popularly believed to be the practice of black magic. Witches are known today as followers of Wicca, a pagan nature religion with roots in pre-Christian western Europe. Wicca is now undergoing a revival, especially in the United States and Great Britain...is it so wrong for someone to love nature so much...i dont think so...im speaking as someone who was asked if they were a devil worshiper by their own grandmother (who is a christian herself) because i wear black...dont talk about things you have no knowledge of...
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Well, I do believe that wicca is bad, but I don't think the people are bad. I have a friend who is wiccan. me and my cousin has been friends with him for over 14 years. We do disagree with each other. But we still talk and kid around and still respect each other.
Answered No
allow bibles and toras and..etc back in school and then it wont be a probem, i love all literature so why accept one and not the other. harry is often looked as being satanic and thats just ignorant on their part.