WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to have workers' wages garnisheed if they refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.?

raves +2 -7 by Trinity
Doesn't that just give you that warm and fuzzy feeling inside.

Do you agree with her plan?
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raves +5   by fluer ~ PUMA

Answered No

My wages are already docked every two weeks for pathetic coverage. So if they take the money and give me great health care then I am all for it.
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  • raves +1 -5 [-] by Trinity
  • raves +1   [-] by Katie~PUMA!!!
    THE BEST IN THE WORLD...OTHER OPINION POLLS AND NEWS ARTICLES ALIKE AGREE...NOT TO MENTION THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE
  • raves   -4 [-] by Trinity
  • raves     [-] by Katie~PUMA!!!
    MANY DISAGREE....OH THATS RIGHT YOUR ONE OF THE DELUSIONALS THEIR REPORTING ON....HOW NAIVE
  • raves +2 -4 [-] by Trinity
  • raves +2   [-] by Katie~PUMA!!!
    MY 11 YR OLD GRANDSON....YOUR TYPE MENTALITY
  • raves +3   [-] by heart ~ McCain/Palin08 Yes!
    Actually jkh... maybe you should do some quick research before you label someone else a fool.

    http://www.businessweek.com/g...

    I'll quote the relevant bit for you to save you the trouble of looking for answers.

    "France also demonstrates that you can deliver stellar results with this mix of public and private financing. In a recent World Health Organization health-care ranking, France came in first, while the U.S. scored 37th, slightly better than Cuba and one notch above Slovenia. France's infant death rate is 3.9 per 1,000 live births, compared with 7 in the U.S., and average life expectancy is 79.4 years, two years more than in the U.S. The country has far more hospital beds and doctors per capita than America, and far lower rates of death from diabetes and heart disease. The difference in deaths from respiratory disease, an often preventable form of mortality, is particularly striking: 31.2 per 100,000 people in France, vs. 61.5 per 100,000 in the U.S."
  • raves +1 -3 [-] by Trinity
  • raves +2   [-] by heart ~ McCain/Palin08 Yes!
    You're talking bs again dear. How about some cites? Or is it that you simply browse just enough to find something negative to say and don't bother to read analytically for a balance?
  • raves   -1 [-] by missnoee
    Do you YELL ALL the time Katie???? Bet your family loves it!
  • raves   -1 [-] by missnoee
    But Canada and France get it free KATIE
  • raves +2   [-] by heart ~ McCain/Palin08 Yes!
    Or Scotland. France ranked 1st and the UK 18th... out of 191 countries.
  • raves   -1 [-] by jrtmanmd
    Hey I've got this bridge I'm selling... Would you like to buy it? Cheap... Just $50.00.

  • raves +3   [-] by Janet C K

    Answered Yes

    there are 44 million uninsured Americans in this country, and 1/3 of the country is underinsured. That's more people than the state of California. It's been documented time and time again that these people going to the Emergency room, and not paying drives up the cost of health care for everyone else. No politician is going vote to refuse health care in the ER because it would end their political career. The potential for lawsuits for misjudging an emergency situation would be too great for those who suggest turning away nonemergency cases. Lawsuits and the cost of insurance also create the high expense that is passed along to people from doctors. These are the reasons for expensive health care. Controling what doctors and nurses get paid would be through controling those factors, not controling what the doctor actually makes. The basic point is when overhead is controled, you have more money, therefore you can bring costs down. My son was charged $44 to have his temperature taken in the ER last time we went (that single item was not paid by my insurance company, but that is what they wanted the Insurance company to pay for that itemized "service") That was just part of his general admission to the ER, not the issue why he was there. Not only that, our healthcare is based on what our insurance approves, you very well may not get the best x-ray, or the new promising treatment...for example, new cancer fighting technology exists, a lot of insurance companies consider it expe...
    there are 44 million uninsured Americans in this country, and 1/3 of the country is underinsured. That's more people than the state of California. It's been documented time and time again that these people going to the Emergency room, and not paying drives up the cost of health care for everyone else. No politician is going vote to refuse health care in the ER because it would end their political career. The potential for lawsuits for misjudging an emergency situation would be too great for those who suggest turning away nonemergency cases. Lawsuits and the cost of insurance also create the high expense that is passed along to people from doctors. These are the reasons for expensive health care. Controling what doctors and nurses get paid would be through controling those factors, not controling what the doctor actually makes. The basic point is when overhead is controled, you have more money, therefore you can bring costs down. My son was charged $44 to have his temperature taken in the ER last time we went (that single item was not paid by my insurance company, but that is what they wanted the Insurance company to pay for that itemized "service") That was just part of his general admission to the ER, not the issue why he was there. Not only that, our healthcare is based on what our insurance approves, you very well may not get the best x-ray, or the new promising treatment...for example, new cancer fighting technology exists, a lot of insurance companies consider it experimental, despite the fact that in many cancers, they are terminal anyway. Under our system, doctors order what they know is covered, because if they order something else, and the bill doesn't get paid, it's on them. If you don't have the $200 deductible for the MRI, you will get the CAT scan...even if the MRI has been proven more effective as a tool for whatever it is they are looking for.

    Anyhow, it's no wonder why people who do not have insurance (but would pay if charged fairly), who go to the ER, don't want to pay, because the services are overpriced. Because of the people who can't afford to pay at all. So, the point is, it's been documented, that the money spent on people going to the ER for general care, that should be sought out else where, and taking Insurance Companies self interest out of the picture, along with reducing the cost of billing and paperwork, not to mention regulating the cost and production of medicine in a way that would still promote research, but not line the pockets of Insurance Companies CEOs---(which should happen anyway because as soon as an immunization is not profitable, they can decide to stop making it despite the greater good of preventing a disease which happened just recently with an important vaccination) would allow us to provide health care to everyone. This would not involve tax hikes. Maybe that's how other countries pay for it, but they obviously don't have the wealth or the resources that this country has. No one is saying that additional insurance couldn't be purchased for higher end services--and I am sure there will be a market for that. But if you'd rather keep paying LIKE YOU ARE NOW, for people who don't have insurance, and have nothing to show for it, go ahead, support a system that is broken charging $44 to take a temperature, and watch insurance premiums sky rocket. I guess we can just keep going in the direction we are going. Let's freak everyone out by scaring them away from possibilities. That isn't helping find a solution, it's justifying keeping the current problem.

    I wouldn't doubt if health insurance companies don't have people posing as regular people spreading fear and worry to people on here. Sounds paranoid, but look at what some of the people post on here. How much people are spun up about this, like citing Canada as a reason not to have national healthcare--ok, Canada's population is LESS than California...spread out over an area larger than the US. Their Road systems across that area, their puplic systems...for that large area, paid for a population smaller than California--of course they're going to have higher taxes. Of course they are going to have access issues. Of course they are going to make people come to a central point for an expensive procedure because with such a small population, how could you justify purchasing so many machines? I guarantee you if Canada was in the area of California, access would NOT be an issue. Again, based on the FACT that there is NOT a stream of French, English, German, Swedish, etc. immigrants coming here, tells me that no matter what you are saying about their countries, they are still more satisfied with what they have, than what we have. Period. I don't recall any talk about the PROBLEM of Canadians seeking superior American ER services by coming over the Border...or that our Northern hospitals or doctors are being overburdened by too many Canadians taking up beds. All health care systems have their pros and cons, but there's absolutely no reason why we can take the positives and create a better system. All I can say is when my copays for monthly required meds are $20 (generic) and $40 (name brand formulary) per med, for one person, and I have doctors charging me a separate charge from the ER visit which I paid a deductible for, and that separate charge isn't coverage (physician's fee), when a large chunk of my pay goes toward having health insurance, you have to wonder where all that extra money that isn't being spent on doctors visits goes. It's the greatest pyramid scam ever and Insurance Companies love it.
  • raves +2   [-] by jchandraa

    Answered Yes

    I hate paying a share of the cost of people without insurance who ruthlessly use Emergency rooms across USA (I see extremely long lines at all emergency rooms of hospitals and most of them don't pay, and we have to share in paying that cost!).
  • raves +1 -1 [-] by boxerpaws nobama

    Answered No

    i live in a state where the litigation envoirment was so bad that over 1,000 of our doctors just hightailed it outta here.The malpractice crisis was enormous and away they went.Quite the mess.We really don't have any good doctors left here.
  • raves +3   [-] by tarriff

    Answered Yes

    I can see your point but why the hell wouldn't you accept free coverage
  • raves +3 -5 [-] by Trinity
  • raves +3   [-] by tarriff
    At least this covers every single ailment unlike health insurance companies who go out of their way to worm out of paying for a person with cancer.
  • raves +3   [-] by boxerpaws nobama
    "


    The money the goverment gets is from us.They are not very good at handling our money as it is"
    the government run health care? Can you imagine?

    I can just envision the paper work,red tape and hoops ppl would be jumping through.
    I can just see the forms,upon forms,upon forms.Pls.there has to be a better way.
    Canada has a health care system i think might be similiar to what is being proposed.If not,correct me.

    And have a look here:
    http://www.city-journal.org/h...
    I
  • raves +2   [-] by tarriff
    Ther may be a better way but as of now universal healthcare would be the best system.
  • raves +3   [-] by heart ~ McCain/Palin08 Yes!
    These nay-sayers are wearing blinders. They refuse to look at Medicare and Medicaid. Both government run and, while not perfect, are effective and manage to cover millions of people.

    UHC for the U.S. should be modeled on something that is *proven* to work like France's system of health care.

    http://www.businessweek.com/g...

    "In fact, the French system is similar enough to the U.S. model that reforms based on France's experience might work in America. The French can choose their doctors and see any specialist they want. Doctors in France, many of whom are self- employed, are free to prescribe any care they deem medically necessary. "The French approach suggests it is possible to solve the problem of financing universal coverage...[without] reorganizing the entire system," says Victor G. Rodwin, professor of health policy and management at New York University. [...] To grasp how the French system works, think about Medicare for the elderly in the U.S., then expand that to encompass the entire population."
  • raves +3 -1 [-] by zsazsa

    Answered No

    She is wrong and I think I should have freedom of choice
  • raves +3   [-] by fluer ~ PUMA
    The only choice you don't have is to have it or not have it. Her plan is full of choices she isn't telling you what to chose just that it is needed like auto insurance. Where you buy it is up to you.
  • raves +1   [-] by Katie~PUMA!!!
    WE ALREADY DO, AND IT'S NOT WORKING FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN
  • raves   -3 [-] by Trinity
    Your right and it needs to be fixed.

    Socialized medicine is not the answer,Proven it doesn't work.

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
  • raves     [-] by Katie~PUMA!!!
    JUST LIKE "HOPE" FOR CHANGE
  • raves +5   [-] by fluer ~ PUMA

    Answered No

    My wages are already docked every two weeks for pathetic coverage. So if they take the money and give me great health care then I am all for it.
  • raves +1 -4 [-] by Trinity
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