Feb 16, 2008 05:15PM GMT
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Politics - Other
Do you think Senate Bill 2433, The Global Poverty Act of 2007, sponsored by Barack Obama is a good bill for the American Taxpayer?
SENATE BILL 2433 – GLOBAL POVERTY ACT OF 2007A nice-sounding bill called the "Global Poverty Act," sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.
Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was trying to rush Obama's 'Global Poverty Act' (S. 2433) through his committee without hearings. The legislation would commit the US to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the US already spends," on foreign aid. "It was scheduled for a Thursday vote but was moved up a day, to Wednesday, and rushed through by voice vote. Conservative Senators have now put a 'hold' on the legislation, in order to prevent it from being rushed to the floor for a full Senate vote." The House passed this bill in September. It's now getting rushed through the committee in the Senate, to soak the US taxpayers again to fund global, liberal, feel-good garbage legislation.
Senator Obama wrote the bill. This is just the tip of the iceberg, should he win.
Now, the bill has defined the term millennium development goals as the goals set out in the declaration given by the United Nations. Just so you know, those Millennia’s goals not only care about poor starving children, there's other ideas in there as well. For instance, the declaration commits nations to ban small arms and weapons, ratifying a series of treaties including the International Criminal Court treaty, the Kyoto protocol, the Convention on Biological Diversity.
All this comes from the candidate who says we should be helping Americans first?
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Answered No
I have felt for a long time that the rich, especially the Hollywood people, should spend some of their millions on helping starving & homeless people all over the world rather than spend it on huge, glamorous parties, which I think is gross. Finally, more & more of these people are seeing the light. I do not think every American should participate through taxes, etc. as they cannot afford it & many are on the brink of poverty themselves. I have a special yearning to help these poor, starving kids all over the world, including America. Yes, we have them too. But nobody should be forced to do so. Obama wants to bring this great country to it's knees & in submission to the United Nations. -
Answered No
This Bill will also make us subservient to the united nations. We all need to call, fax or write our elected represnitives. Here is a link for more information on this un-American legislation. Please pass this information on as much as possable.
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Answered No
UPDATE UPDATE.
I sent this to my Senator:
The honorable Joe Biden,
This following issue has recently come to my attention that I am vehemently opposed to.
“SENATE BILL 2433 – GLOBAL POVERTY ACT OF 2007
“A nice-sounding bill called the ‘Global Poverty Act,’ sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.
Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was trying to rush Obama's 'Global Poverty Act' (S. 2433) through his committee without hearings. The legislation would commit the US to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the US already spends," on foreign aid. "It was scheduled for a Thursday vote but was moved up a day, to Wednesday, and rushed through by voice vote. Conservative Senators have now put a 'hold' on the legislation, in order to prevent it from being rushed to the floor for a full Senate vote." The House passed this bill in September. It's now getting rushed through the committee in the Senate, to soak the US taxpayers again to fund global, liberal, feel-good garbage legislation.
Now, the bill has defined th...UPDATE UPDATE.
I sent this to my Senator:
The honorable Joe Biden,
This following issue has recently come to my attention that I am vehemently opposed to.
“SENATE BILL 2433 – GLOBAL POVERTY ACT OF 2007
“A nice-sounding bill called the ‘Global Poverty Act,’ sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.
Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was trying to rush Obama's 'Global Poverty Act' (S. 2433) through his committee without hearings. The legislation would commit the US to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the US already spends," on foreign aid. "It was scheduled for a Thursday vote but was moved up a day, to Wednesday, and rushed through by voice vote. Conservative Senators have now put a 'hold' on the legislation, in order to prevent it from being rushed to the floor for a full Senate vote." The House passed this bill in September. It's now getting rushed through the committee in the Senate, to soak the US taxpayers again to fund global, liberal, feel-good garbage legislation.
Now, the bill has defined the term millennium development goals as the goals set out in the declaration given by the United Nations. Just so you know, those Millennia’s goals not only care about poor starving children, there's other ideas in there as well. For instance, the declaration commits nations to ban small arms and weapons, ratifying a series of treaties including the International Criminal Court treaty, the Kyoto protocol, the Convention on Biological Diversity.
All this comes from the candidate who says we should be helping Americans first?”
Let's see if I get this correctly...
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
First question: Why is this bill allowed to see the light of day when it is clearly Unconstitutional?
Second question: Why are you trying to rush this bill through without hearings?
From Article I
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"
I don't see anything in here where my tax dollars are supposed to go anywhere but HERE. This bill is unconstitutional!(less) -
I just received a response (in the negative). I will reproduce it here once I get my page scanner to work!
The two lines that I get a kick out of is:
Exerpt from the letter I received from Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr. dated 28 July, 2008.
"Let me begin by saying that I believe the United States should always come first and foremost in all our political and economic decisions."
"I support foreign assistance because it is in an investment in OUR secuity."
Right! By borrowing money from China to give to these countries when we have 'perceived' problems at home?
And this from a perspective VP candidate? Please remind me Who is out of touch when the majority of Americans want Congress to fix problems at home like energy independence! -
Answered Yes
Contrary to all the rumors and misinformation being distributed about the Global Poverty Act, merely strengthens the United States' commitment to the goals we set in 2000. The legislation neither authorizes nor obligates the federal government to spend more money. Rather, it seeks to put our current foreign aid programs into a comprehensive strategy involving trade policy, debt cancellation, and private sector efforts to ensure that existing U.S. programs are more effective and efficient. The legislation calls for a strategy to determine the right mix of aid, trade and debt policies and investment. The strategy also includes the private sector, civil society organizations, and the developing countries themselves as critical components in global development. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated the bill would cost less than $1 million to implement.
Here are some links to the Global Poverty Act...from RELIABLEsources, including the ACTUAL text of the bill:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin...
http://www.bread.org/take-act...
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SLM, you are so mis-informed. Here is link to a better explanation of the Bill.
http://www.cfiflistmanager.or...
BTW, where is this trillion one hundred billion dollars coming from again? -
No I am not mis-informed. This link is the opinion according to some conservative sources...and conservative activists. I don't get my information from them...as it is fabricated and exaggerated and grossly inaccurate. So no thank you... I'll get the real information about the bill from reliable sources.... and I suggest you do the same.
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Answered No
I understand as American's we want to help other countries, but shouldn't we worry about the proverty in the U.S., first? With the ecomony crisis that we are facing in our nation, can we really afford to add another $845 billion to what we already payout?? I think everyone will find out that America will be a 2nd thought, if Obama is in our White House. -
obama and soros are globalist and want us subservient to the united nations. Try this link.
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Answered Undecided
This information is from the library of congress. This bill was introduced On March of 2007 by Adam Smith, Senator of Washington state. The bill was passed on Sept 25, 2007 in congress but not signed by the president.
The number for the bill was H.R. 1302 Global Proverty Act 2007. So for all you inquirying minds that look up the originater of this bill.......it was not Barack Obama. He did introduce a Global Proverty Act in Dec 2007, but it has not been scheduled for debate. Therefore, it is wrong to assume his act is a carbon copy of Sen Adams. No information is given to the structure of the bill. -
Tresor,,,in case you don't know it...this piece of garbage started by obama has already passed the House of Represenitives.
Try this link.
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This piece of garbage, as you refer to it, was passed in 1990 and it has been amended several times. The important issue is that it was not originated by Sen Obama as the blogs and right-wing want everyone to believe. I should I read a blog when I can go to the source?
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Tressor this bill is not Obamas he took it out and dusted it off - it has been around for awhile - in fact he didnt change a word on the bill - not one word - its not his he is just touting it that way
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Answered Yes
You're wrong about the Millennium Development Goals. None of the goals mention small arms bans, Kyoto, nor the ICC Treaty. The Goals come from the Millennium Declaration which does mention these things but the Goals do not. The Obama bill only deals with one of the Goals, eradicating global poverty. The U.S. Government has already agreed to both the Declaration and the Goals. The Obama bill only asks the president to better participate in these agreements that we have already made. -
The number of web sites that contain misinformation is amazing. A well informed citizen in this day and age must seek the truth from the original sources.
No bill in the Senate or the House mentions any Tax increase of 845 billion. This bill is only a extension of the bill passed in 1990 (under President Bush Sr) and extended again in 2005 under the present administration. The bill S.2433 is regarding the agreement reached at the summit of the Group of Eight (G-8) nations in July 2005, leaders (note this includes President Bush), from all eight participating countries committed to increase aid to Africa from the current $25,000,000,000 annually to $50,000,000,000 by 2010, and to cancel 100 percent of the debt obligations owed to the World Bank, African Development Bank, and International Monetary Fund by 18 of the world's poorest nations.
Global Poverty Act of 2007 (Reported in Senate)
S 2433 RS
Calendar No. 718
110th CONGRESS
2d Session
S. 2433
[Report No. 110-331]
To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty , the elimination of extreme global poverty , and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
December 7, 2007
Mr. OBAMA (for himself, Mr. HAGEL, Ms. CANTWELL, Mr...The
Answered No
What the Hell? And people want him to be our President? What a nutcase.