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Should campuses tell the RIAA about illegal downloading on their campus?

raves +1   by Mr. X
Should campuses tell the RIAA about illegal downloading on their campus?
Curb Illegal Downloading on College Campuses Act of 2007 - Authorizes the Secretary of Education to use the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education to support efforts by institutions of higher education and other nonprofit institutions and agencies to more... establish pilot programs and initiatives on college campuses to reduce illegal downloading of copyrighted content, thereby improving the security and integrity of campus computer networks and saving telecommunications bandwidth costs, while ensuring the availability of such bandwidth for research and educational purposes.program authors, to individual users uploading and sharing copy-protected works online, more people are finding themselves in court trying to avoid paying monetary damages and trying to prove that what they are doing is in fact, fair use.
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raves +2   by party-girl

Answered Yes. Downloading music is stealing.

Duh! yeah this is illegal
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  • raves     [-] by Nitsudbocaj

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    The music industry exists to help promote artists and distribute their music. Now, social networks (ie MySpace) can promote the artist and P2P allows for distribution. The entertainment industry is just mad that they can no longer control the rules of the game. Instead of enslaving any mediocre artists to unfair record deals and reaping billions, they have to actually find quality musicians that can produce a CD with more than 1 good song to even have a SHOT at selling a their product. It's about time that the music, movie, and book publishing industries realize their days as "middle-men" are over. Artists will finally be able to focus on their art and be directly rewarded based on the quality of their product instead of what pennies the industry funnels down.
  • raves     [-] by mike

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    hell no, im presently waiting on the dea or whatthefuckever to bust down my door, i download errythings, you gotsta!!
  • raves     [-] by cleanthes

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    The UCLA solution is perhaps the perfect solution. You are given one chance to fail, and your internet privileges hang in the balance. If you still screw up after one fair warning, they report you. It's as fair as it gets. We don't need the morons in Congress passing additional useless laws. Existing laws address the issue adequately.
    http://www.resnet.ucla.edu/dm...
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken

    Answered Yes. Downloading music is stealing.

    Illegal is still illegal. Call it "file sharing" or "P2P" but it's still the same thing; stealing.
    The Supreme Court ruled that it acceptable to share copies of recordings that you have purchased with a "reasonable" amount of people. * They never defined "reasonable" but putting it out for the public to take at will by the tens of thousands does not sound like reasonable sharing to me.

    The record companies invest billions in their artists and like it or not, they deserve to make some money off of their investments.

    Meanwhile online stores are selling downloads for as little as 79 cents a track and Virgin sells many CD's and DVD's at $10. There are also services such as Yahoo unlimited and Napster that allow unlimited downloads from extensive libraries for a nominal monthly fee. True, these don't work on iPods, but they do work on most other devices.

    I see no reason to steal music.

    * This was back in the 70's when the music industry was concerned that blank cassettes would destroy the industry.
  • raves +1   [-] by cleanthes
    Not quite. University researchers often need to move terrabytes of data around. Filesharing networks are very useful for these tasks. It is important to distinguish between legal and illegal file sharing. The blockheads in Congress (especially the ones who call the internet "a bunch of tubes") are much too old to understand this issue.
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    Good points, but the discussion is about networks that allow and became popular for music and movies to be shared without the owners consent, not academic papers.

    BTW: Who called the internet "a bunch of tubes"?
  • raves +1   [-] by Cesar "twisted" Rockoon is ...

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    many bads get known like that
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    Many bands offer free downloads from their MySpace page or their own site. The NY Post also offers free downloads of new bands (and some older, established ones) along with articles about them as a way of exposing people to new music.
    P2P sites are not the best way to spread buzz about a band.
  • raves     [-] by Cesar "twisted" Rockoon is ...
    I don't have a PSP

    I have Ares in my computer
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    Cesar,

    It's P2P which is shorthand for Peer to Peer.

    PSP = Playstaion Portable
  • raves +1   [-] by Cesar "twisted" Rockoon is ...
    then I'm not doing anything wrong?
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    I don't know what you're doing, so i can't say.

    If you are downloading movies or music without permission from the owners, then yes, it is wrong. It's theft.
  • raves     [-] by Cesar "twisted" Rockoon is ...
    ok
    them I am
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    Then you are stealing and showing disrespect for the artists and those who believed in them and supported them before they were well known.

    Next time, please consider spending 79 to 99 cents to buy a track instead of stealing it. You are also guarenteed high quality and virus free downloads.
  • raves     [-] by Cesar "twisted" Rockoon is ...
    I don't have money
    not everyone have money so I think I will still do it

    I think I will give them respect getting them know by other people
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    So if you don't have money and you see a cool shirt would you steal that too?

    You could use that same rational about getting the shirt manufacturer exposure too, I guess.

    Stealing is stealing.

    When I was your age, I was broke too. I had freinds make me cassettes of albums that I liked. The Supreme Court says that that is not stealing.

    Why not have your friends that have the $10 to buy the CD burn you a copy?

    Why steal if you don't have to?
  • raves +2   [-] by party-girl

    Answered Yes. Downloading music is stealing.

    Duh! yeah this is illegal
  • raves +1   [-] by Citizen Phil

    Answered Yes. Downloading music is stealing.

    There should be a subscription option, where a single annual fee (maybe $19.95) would allow a user to download any copyrighted material from any source for personal use.
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    That already exists with Yahoo Unlimited and others.
  • raves     [-] by kevracer

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    While I disagree with music sharing, the colleges have a responsbility to protect the student's privacy
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    Ah the old slippery slope.

    OK, then at what level of crime do the schools say, enough is enough. We're calling the cops?

    Keep in mind that if the theives are using school computers and/or networks the school might be liable for aiding and abetting a crime.
  • raves     [-] by Greatbear100

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    Peer sharing is not a crime.
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    It is if you're just putting someone elses property out for anyone to grab without their permission.
  • raves   -1 [-] by Denny

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    They should tell the RIAA to go stright to hell.
  • raves     [-] by dumdumboy

    Answered Undecided

    While I don't condone illegal file-sharing, especially by rich kids who could easily afford to buy the damn CD, this question brings chilling thoughts of George Orwell's "1984" to mind. Mebbe the colleges could all change their name to Big Brother, and inform their students that they are being watched.
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    I hate to be the one to break it to you, but when you are using someone else's computer and/or network, you have absolutely no right to expect privacy.
  • raves +1   [-] by Jon

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    What are the chances that any of this money will go to the artists? ZERO? Somehow I do not think that the greedy executives need to make more money !!
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    Jon,

    While it is true that a reletavly small percentage of CD sales goes to the artists, it is more than enough to buy a nice house or two in some megawealthy resort for some.

    These "greedy executives" are the ones who spend billions investing in new talent and promoting them. They are the ones taking all the risks if they judge wrong. If you take away the posibility of having a return on their investment, they just won't invest there. That's why it's called the Music BUSINESS.

    Why deny artists and investors what is rightfully theirs?
  • raves     [-] by fuzzy (as a raccoon) Ken
    I wanted to add that "greedy executives" constantly search for new talent and devote tons of time and money to develop and sell the artists before they ever see a dime on their investment if they ever do.
    Musicians, like movies sometimes flop after millions are spent on them and then investors or "greedy executives" loose money.
  • raves     [-] by Samuel[raccoon]

    Answered Undecided

    Everyone is doing it but its good to buy music every now and then
  • raves     [-] by Brenda

    Answered No. P2P sharing is not a crime.

    Hey it's there and why the hell not They should be bitching about the high cost of shitty education and never finding a job for what they studied for . Now that is a crime. They should give us our money back if we can't get the job that we worked and paid for