Apr 24, 2008 09:41PM GMT
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Is McCain sexist for opposing equal pay bill for women?
Republican Senator John McCain said he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women, because it would create unnecessary lawsuits. The bill sought to counteract a Supreme Court decision limiting how long workers can wait before suing for pay discrimination. It is named for Lilly Ledbetter, a supervisor at the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.'s plant in Gadsden, Alabama, who sued for pay discrimination just before retiring after a 19-year career there. Ledbetter made $6,500 less than the lowest-paid male supervisor and claimed earlier decisions by supervisors kept her from making more.Senate Republicans killed the bill Wednesday night on a 56-42 vote that denied the measure the 60 votes needed to advance it to full debate and a vote. Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both support the measure.
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raves posted Oct 30, 2008 04:00AM GMT
Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against your wife, mother, sister, or daughter. The lawsuits could be grandfathered. The worst of his vote was his reasoning, "we need more education and training" John, you're an idiot. Sadly Palin, too supports that. What the heck is wrong with her beyond the many obvious other issues? -
raves posted Sep 04, 2008 03:08AM GMT
Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
Is there a women alive in this country who dosen't believe this is sexism at its worse? I challenge every women in this country who believe she will vote for the Republican ticket to describe in her own words exactly how the election of John McCain will benefit her or those family memebers closest to her. And please, skip the crap about taxes - somebody has to foot the bill and it is not the McCain, Bush and Cheneys of the country! -
raves posted Jun 24, 2008 12:54AM GMT
Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
McCain is a sexist,he dose not even want us to get equal pay for the same job are you kidding me? But he thinks we should vote for him come on. With a vote like that how can he even ask women to vote for him? -
raves posted Jun 11, 2008 10:10PM GMT
Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
Yea he is, cause if we as women have to work as hard as men and do the same jobs as men. I think we desiver the same pay. Hell I think we should be paid more than men. Cause WE as women have kids, as we women support our husbands on what they want to do, we raise the kids. An most of us work. Not only that there are tons of single women with kids, that are tring to do it wall without child support. Now Im not sexist, but I think that the only women that should not get equal pay are the ones that complain about the work. -
raves +2 posted May 06, 2008 08:27PM GMT
Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
It is certainly not the only thing that makes him a sexist, but it is one of his defining moments as a relic of an era that needs to become a bygone era as soon as possible. Of course, he also excused his vote on this bill by saying that what women really needed was more education and training, as opposed to the ability to sue discriminatory practices. Oh well, maybe he thinks Lilly Ledbetter would be better suited to joining migrant farmworkers in picking lettuce, since his reasoning for not wanting to stiffen enforcement of illegal immigration laws had nothing whatever to do with humanitarian interests or fast-tracking citizenship and everything to do with greed: afterall, without illegals "who'll pick the lettuce?" -
raves +3 posted May 06, 2008 03:23PM GMT
Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
But his wife is wealthy so why would he care?
He's wrong about the lawsuits being unnecessary. This is a social justice issue that can only be addressed by going to law. -
raves +4 posted May 06, 2008 03:44AM GMT
Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
I would hope that in America , by this time everyone could be equal but gay marriage isn't even acceptable to McCain -- So what can you expect --it's his generation that think like that!! -
raves +1 -1 posted May 05, 2008 11:58PM GMT
Answered No, I agree with McCain. There would be too many lawsuits if this bill passed.
I don't care about lawsuits, but we have a free market economy. If women want more money at work, they need to demand it. If they are not given fair pay based on sex, then there are already laws in place to give them legal recourse.
I think the same can be said for the entire middle class. The middle class has seen insignificant increase in pay compared to the market as a whole over the last 20 years. Middle class Americans need to be demanding better wages and not just accepting what rich corporate asshole give you. -
raves +2 May 06, 2008 08:30PM GMTRead the whole post, Nate. The reason the legislation was introduced was because the Supreme Court interpreted one of those ground-breaking pieces of legislation in such a way that after 6 months essentially, a woman who is discriminated against in the workplace loses her right to sue. The Court's decision swung the matter back into Congress to fix -- which some were prepared to do, but not this fossilized old fool and his ilk.
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raves +1 May 07, 2008 03:55AM GMTIf the law is gutted by those trusted with interpreting it, and Congress shirks its responsibility to clarify what was meant by the law (since some on the Supreme Court are playing dumb), how precisely are women to use the laws "already... in place to give them legal recourse"? Not trying to be argumentative. I do not see how those viewpoints coalesce.
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raves +3 posted May 03, 2008 06:31AM GMT
Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
There are so many single mothers now, with no child support, trying to make their way. I think that women should have equal pay for equal work and it is worth a few law suits if it takes that. Think of the children it will help. -
raves posted May 01, 2008 02:28AM GMT
Answered Undecided
I'd have to see the full quote of McCain publicly disagreeing with the bill and his justification for it before I condemn him. So far all I've seen is someone saying something about him saying women need more "education and training," and three words in quotation marks isn't enough for me to make a judgment on. -
raves +1 -1 posted Apr 28, 2008 01:58PM GMT
Answered No, I agree with McCain. There would be too many lawsuits if this bill passed.
I actually agree with Jackie G. I was looking for additional information on this case.
I think of it this way- if a bill is introduced and someone else shoots it down out of hand, it was likely a poorly concieved bill. It was worded in such a way as to make the people who had no choice but to strike it down look bad.
The people who introduced it knew how McCain would react, this is the only reason for it being brought up now. Regardless of the proceedings after the fact, those who introduced the arguement (not the bill) would have the ability to say "Oh, look at him! He's a sexist!" -
raves Apr 28, 2008 06:22PM GMTThe bill was actually supported by a sizable majority in both the House and the Senate. It easily passed the House of Representatives. It was supported in the Senate by a 56-42 majority. The only reason it did not pass was because it takes 60 votes to end a filibuster, and supporters fell 4 votes shy of that 60% super-majority.
Read through the rest of the comments on this thread and you will find a good bit of information about the bill, and links to more information. -
raves +3 Apr 28, 2008 06:46PM GMT
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Answered Yes, McCain's opposition to an equal pay bill for women is sexist. I demand equality.
Sex discrimination has been against the law for some time. This bill would clarify what the law means. It is necessary because the Supreme Court ruled in a recent case that a woman who had been discriminated against for many, many years, but had no way to know of the discrimination because of company policies against supervisors revealing their own compensation, that she should have filed her discrimination suit when the discrimination first occurred (even though she had no way to know of the discrimination). The bill clarifies that discrimination doesn't just occur one time, it occurs every payday that she gets less money than her male counterparts doing the same job.http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin...
H.R.2831 : To amend title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990, and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 to clarify that a discriminatory compensation decision or other practice that is unlawful under such Acts occurs each time compensation is paid pursuant to the discriminatory compensation decision or other practice, and for other purposes.