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Should Federal & State Tax Laws Be Reformed? (Please add your,"Solution")?

raves +5   by Ken
Should Federal & State Tax Laws Be Reformed?    (Please add your,"Solution")
In a quest to find a fair and equitable solution to tax reform, this question is presented in hopes of generating a community dialogue on how best to address this issue. Please share how you feel this can best be addressed.
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raves +5 -1 by rushsupporter

Answered Yes

consumption tax only and keep it low!
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  • raves +2   [-] by Bitwise Operator

    Answered Yes

    No federal income tax. States should impose consumption/use/sales based taxes only - those are the only kind that are truly fair.
  • raves +5 -1 [-] by rushsupporter

    Answered Yes

    consumption tax only and keep it low!
  • raves +3 -1 [-] by KAT

    Answered Yes

    if my money is not being spent on the people then dont take my sh****t!
  • raves +2   [-] by Ali

    Answered Yes

    Yes, they need to be reformed but I have no solution to offer. I don't like the flat tax - regressive as it impacts lower income people far more than those folks with higher incomes. Not in favor of a VAT - same reason.
  • raves +2   [-] by Bite Me (XSA)

    Answered Yes

    www.fairtax.org!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
  • raves +3 -1 [-] by Ken
    How as ordinary citizens can we make this happen? The traditional avenues don't seem to be working so how as citizens can we bring some pressure? Put it on the ballot? Just thinking out loud...
  • raves +1   [-] by Bite Me (XSA)
    Join fairtax.org would be a start. That the only reason I wanted Huckabee to get in. Im as far from the religious right as you can get.
  • raves +2   [-] by BBill ~ Proud American
    Was the one thing I liked about Huck. Romney mentioned it the other day. Maybe if he gets the nod for VP we can have a chance with it.
  • raves +2   [-] by Bite Me (XSA)
    Romney had his own tax adviser that didnt like the fair tax because it took too much power from the political powers that be. That was my problem with him. If Hillary or Obama gets in there we will all be in deep shit.
  • raves +3 -1 [-] by Ken
    Again, hoping not to politicize this discussion~:-) Not sure that is necessarily accurate anyway. I think if the citizenry makes a big deal out of it anythings possible.
  • raves     [-] by Pat Black
    moderated...
  • raves +2   [-] by I Luv Hillary

    Answered Yes

    The cost of administering the existing system is huge. The beauracacy is huge. The fear instilled in the general public is huge. We need a HUGE change! I suggest the "FairTax" approach. Here's a quick summary of how it works:::::The FairTax (H.R.25/S.1025) is a bill in the United States Congress for changing tax laws to replace the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and all federal income taxes (including Alternative Minimum Tax), payroll taxes (including Social Security and Medicare taxes), corporate taxes, capital gains taxes, gift taxes, and estate taxes with a national retail sales tax, to be levied once at the point of purchase on all new goods and services. The proposal also calls for a monthly payment to households of citizens and legal resident aliens (based on family size) as an advance rebate of tax on purchases up to the poverty level. The sales tax rate, as defined in the legislation, is 23% of the total register price (23¢ of every $1—calculated the same way as income taxes), which is comparable to a 30% traditional state sales tax (30¢ on top of every $1). Because the U.S. tax system has a hidden effect on prices, it is expected that moving to the FairTax would decrease production costs from the removal of business taxes and compliance costs, which is predicted to offset a portion of the FairTax effect on prices
    The cost of administering the existing system is huge. The beauracacy is huge. The fear instilled in the general public is huge. We need a HUGE change! I suggest the "FairTax" approach. Here's a quick summary of how it works:::::The FairTax (H.R.25/S.1025) is a bill in the United States Congress for changing tax laws to replace the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and all federal income taxes (including Alternative Minimum Tax), payroll taxes (including Social Security and Medicare taxes), corporate taxes, capital gains taxes, gift taxes, and estate taxes with a national retail sales tax, to be levied once at the point of purchase on all new goods and services. The proposal also calls for a monthly payment to households of citizens and legal resident aliens (based on family size) as an advance rebate of tax on purchases up to the poverty level. The sales tax rate, as defined in the legislation, is 23% of the total register price (23¢ of every $1—calculated the same way as income taxes), which is comparable to a 30% traditional state sales tax (30¢ on top of every $1). Because the U.S. tax system has a hidden effect on prices, it is expected that moving to the FairTax would decrease production costs from the removal of business taxes and compliance costs, which is predicted to offset a portion of the FairTax effect on prices
  • raves +2   [-] by Ken
    Didn't Ron Paul or Huckabee or someone come up with this suggestion? Can't remember at the moment. Would love to see a solution that all parties can be happy with. This particular issue is in serious need of being de-politisized.
  • raves +1 -1 [-] by I Luv Hillary
    Huckabee comments on this and Ron Paul would support it! The problem is the system is too simple and takes authority away from Politicians and their Lobby supporters. I hope I live long enough to see this type of "change"! But the Republicans won't be back in power for probably 8 to 12 years!
  • raves +2   [-] by Ken
    I am hoping, as I mentioned above, that we can steer clear of Republican vs. Democrats in this discussion as this is an issue that is pretty much a hair ball for everyone.~:-)

    I don't believe to date either party has delivered on this issue so it's seems best to take it out of the politicians hands and return the finding of the solution to the citizenry in the shorter term. .Just my view.
  • raves +2   [-] by I Luv Hillary
    As you can see by the California Supreme Court's recent action the "will of the people" doesn't matter! Our system has flaws, but it still has to happen through the system. "Reason" usually prevails over time! I'm holding my breath until it does!
  • raves +2   [-] by BBill ~ Proud American

    Answered Yes

    Read a good short book - Called the Fair Tax. Makes good sense and could be done. Dems hate it, some Repubs talk about it - worth a read. It would revolutionize taxes, and prices if adopted. Would stop all the class war fare and really help middle and lower income. First good idea I have seen in a long time
  • raves +2   [-] by Ken

    Answered Yes

    This country was formed around a ,"Tea Party" surrounding this very issue. Most folks I know are feeling excessively over taxed. To date the ,"Best" solution I have heard offered is the 10% flat tax. My question would be, should the flat tax idea be applied to just individuals or to corporations (all) as well? I would love to hear your ideas.
  • raves     [-] by Ali
    It wasn't the taxation per se; it was taxation without representation.

    The problem with a flat tax is that it has a greater affect on those with a smaller income. The family with an income of 50,000 will feel the 10% far more significantly than the family with an income of 500,000.
  • raves +2   [-] by Ken
    Not so sure about that Ali. $5,000 on $50,000 vs $50,000 on $500,000. Seems to share the pain pretty equally.

    It's the $2,000. on $20,000.00 where I think it really gets problamatic.Maybe a smaller bite for those folks? As it stands now tho, it appears the ,"Middle class" get's hit the hardest. If Exxon Mobile was paying 10% across the board (no loopholes) and you were to expand that expodentially through corporate America, how would we be looking then? Maybe 10% isn't the right figure. maybe it's graduated.

    10-20K = 5.0%
    20-30K = 5,5%
    30-40K = 6.0%
    40- 50K= . 6.5%
    50- 90K= . 7.0%
    90-150K= 7.5%
    150-250K= 8.0%
    250-500K= 8.5%
    500K -1mil= 9.0%
    1Mil. & Up = 10.0%

    Now this may not be,"It" either but just jogging the discussions in hopes we can come up with something all sides would sign off on.(Duck, incoming~:-) )
  • raves     [-] by Ali
    I still feel that the 45K left to one family and the 450k left to another tells its own tale about the relative value of the 10% taken from each.

    Re the gradation you propose, it would be interesting to know what real percentage of all income the IRS gathers now.